A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...

[Reidy02]

Yeah I get that  but I'm being told  that I can't use the thing because it's not Australian Standards Compliant! and that if I try and just hook it up as you're saying I'll be fined BIG time. That's what I was asking if anyone had any idea of what would be involved in making it COMPLY.

[fabr]

I'm aware I can change the plug etc but it's still not Australian Standards Compliant and it has to do with the high freq start do you know anything about that Fabr since you seem to know all?

Sure don't and don't care as all you need do is hook the damn thing up to 220-240v 100 amp service to make it run just as well there as here just as safely. WTH gives a care whether it is Oz compliant? No one does other than that asshole dealer. The Millers are so easy to diagnose IF you ever have trouble right over the phone with miller directly that you need never take it to a welding supplier that is such an ass he'd turn you in for anything just to get a sale. Eff him. Call your electrician and have that 100 amp branch circuit run. Sorry you think I'm an asshole. Just trying to help out but you either don't or won't listen.

[fabr]

Yeah I get that  but I'm being told  that I can't use the thing because it's not Australian Standards Compliant! and that if I try and just hook it up as you're saying I'll be fined BIG time. That's what I was asking if anyone had any idea of what would be involved in making it COMPLY.

Show me the statute.

[Reidy02]

Here's a link http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store/Portal.aspx?publisher=AS

[Reidy02]

Sure don't and don't care as all you need do is hook the damn thing up to 220-240v 100 amp service to make it run just as well there as here just as safely. WTH gives a care whether it is Oz compliant? No one does other than that asshole dealer. The Millers are so easy to diagnose IF you ever have trouble right over the phone with miller directly that you need never take it to a welding supplier that is such an ass he'd turn you in for anything just to get a sale. Eff him. Call your electrician and have that 100 amp branch circuit run. Sorry you think I'm an asshole. Just trying to help out but you either don't or won't listen.

I don't think you're an arsehole Fabr I've just got a bad temper and it seems to be getting worse, and I'm so pissed at the thought of paying all that money and not being able to use it.

[fabr]

We can all get that way. No problem mate!

[Reidy02]

So you're sure i can do that just keep it on the down low and do a bit from time to time, I'm just worried about the interference with the telecomunications crap that they're going on about.

[fabr]

Here's a link http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store/Portal.aspx?publisher=AS

So ,which one applies directly to the question at hand such as ,IS there anything different with a miller sold in the US and Oz? Is there any substantial fine or other "punishment" for using a non compliant(if even so) and how much is that fine or whatever.  DOES the law apply to the SALE and/or USE of any such non compliant equipment in a non commercial avenue. So far all I have read is about an asshole dealer and his claims. Is there any merit in them. I doubt there's a damn thing non compliant . It DID get past customs? Yes?? 

[fabr]

So you're sure i can do that just keep it on the down low and do a bit from time to time, I'm just worried about the interference with the telecomunications crap that they're going on about.

You NEED to get online and download the owners manual for your machine. IN IT it details how YOU need to hook it up to eliminate the EMF that ALL welders generate no matter who made it  or where it's sold. YOU need to wite and properly ground YOUR SHOP to get away from any possible EMF issues. This stuff is well known in the welding industry. I admit I don't know or really care IF there is any extra shielding IN THE MACHINE for Oz use. The point is that if you hook it up and properly ground the thing there is no EMF issue to worry about in the first place. Most of the interference is generated outside of the machine .

[fabr]

BTW ,uncontrolled,the EMF only radiates a few meters. Maybe about 10-15 radius. Proper wiring in your shop should eliminate it.

[Reidy02]

I do have the orignal manual when I bought the thing I asked the guy for all the manuals on it he had.

[fabr]

Just plug in a small radio in your shop. If it buzzes or gets static when welding you have an issue with EMF. No static/buzz and you're good to go.

[fabr]

I do have the orignal manual when I bought the thing I asked the guy for all the manuals on it he had.

Somewhere near the front it should show a diagram of the proper way to set up your layout to eliminate the EMF. If not get a newer version from Miller. The in fo applies to all welders.

[Reidy02]

Somewhere near the front it should show a diagram of the proper way to set up your layout to eliminate the EMF. If not get a newer version from Miller. The in fo applies to all welders.

Really is it as simple as that? As I should have said from the start I'm not the worlds greatest electrician.

[Reidy02]

Actually I just found at the back the correct installation for high frequency. 
It says to ground all metal objects and wiring within a 15meter area. And ground the building if it's metal.