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Title: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 07:32:42 AM
On the road and can't get a pic and no way to draw on my phone.

On the side rails of this thing I'm building I only have room for a single diagonal set of supports from top rail to bottom rail.

Question is... Better to start in the middle of the top rail and go down diagonally to corners of A pillar to the B pillar or center bottom and up to top rail corners.

Understand ?
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: fabr on August 12, 2015, 07:45:08 AM
Probably misunderstanding but single diagonals should go from corner to corner.
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 07:50:33 AM
Yea I didn't explain it well. I have room for a single V
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 07:51:52 AM
This little thing is only being made out of .065 1" tubing.
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: fabr on August 12, 2015, 07:55:15 AM
Again,maybe not following correct but a single v would be effectively creating 3 triangles. Should be fine.
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 08:02:40 AM
Let me try

This way better
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Or this way

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Or does it matter?

Thanks Fabr
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: Lance-W on August 12, 2015, 08:15:09 AM
right side up or upside down doesn't matter but the sharp? part of the "V" should not be in the middle span of a tube (otherwise the tube you weld the point of the "V" to just bends when the "V" pushes on it).  Corner to corner is best (strongest)..........
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 08:17:18 AM
I got it and thank you!!!
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: fabr on August 12, 2015, 08:58:30 AM
Let me try

This way better
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Or this way

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Or does it matter?

Thanks Fabr
I does matter depending on where the input load is coming from. In your example,can you designate where the load is being applied? If you are just wanting a strong square/rectangle,then as Lance said corner to corner is stronger but still the direction of applied load would dictate which corner to corner would be strongest.
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
let me see....

It's like a full caged and suspended wagon that is about 4' long and 30" wide. The distance between the A pillar and B pillar is about 30" front to back and 23" across. There will be a cooler that could weigh 80# hanging from the bottom rail in the center of the chassis. The bottom rail and top rail are only about 10" apart so I'm not even sure I need any extra support. However, since the top and bottom rail are not connected in the span between the A and B pillar, I just want to make sure it doesn't pull the bottom rail down or worse have the entire thing fold up.

If it matters in your thoughts, there will be about 60# hanging from the top of the cage down where someone would normally sit. It will be holding a BBQ and solar panel.

Thanks for helping.
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
let me see....

It's like a full caged and suspended wagon that is about 4' long and 30" wide. The distance between the A pillar and B pillar is about 30" front to back and 23" across. There will be a cooler that could weigh 80# hanging from the bottom rail in the center of the chassis. The bottom rail and top rail are only about 10" apart so I'm not even sure I need any extra support. However, since the top and bottom rail are not connected in the span between the A and B pillar, I just want to make sure it doesn't pull the bottom rail down or worse have the entire thing fold up.

If it matters in your thoughts, there will be about 60# hanging from the top of the cage down where someone would normally sit. It will be holding a BBQ and solar panel.

Thanks for helping.

Is this what I think it is DW?  Will it have a thingamajig and some yippydy-ki-I-o's and Roll?  If so it's about time you got a start on it.   rofl rofl
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 11:49:39 AM
Is this what I think it is DW?  Will it have a thingamajig and some yippydy-ki-I-o's and Roll?  If so it's about time you got a start on it.   rofl rofl

Yes it is. Lol
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: Carlriddle on August 12, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
I will swing thru North Ala and pu next Thur eve?  We will test it thoroughly in St A.  No charge for DTSfab member!!  ;D ;D



And don't forget,
 :wwp:
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2015, 12:59:49 PM
I will swing thru North Ala and pu next Thur eve?  We will test it thoroughly in St A.  No charge for DTSfab member!!  ;D ;D



And don't forget,
 :wwp:

This one is being given away anonymously at the SSSS this year but i will need to make myself one next. Might have to get Fabr to cut the body and extend it a bit. His car is about done so he should have time right?  LMAO
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: fabr on August 12, 2015, 01:03:40 PM
 LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO  Spare time?  LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
Title: Re: Triangled support
Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2015, 01:30:04 PM
The load goes to the apex of the v.  If  the load is on top of the span the apex is up to support the load.
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