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Offline Carlriddle

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Fox shock valving??
« on: November 27, 2010, 07:05:54 AM »
So I talked to the man in the red suit and talked to the man in the brown truck and looks like I'll be getting some new shocks for Christmas.  My question comes on selecting the valving.  Cant seem to find anything on the net.  Everything seems to be in someones head from just experience.  I know much of it is opinion, I was just looking to get closer than pulling something out of my butt.
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 07:37:34 AM »
My experience exactly.  You could try to ask someone who seems to have a similar setup and weight.  However what looks similar could be off by 50% because of shock lean mounting points etc.

You would think that they would have a calculator like the spring calculators just to get ballpark.

I believe that after I get mine together and pull the shocks apart half a dozen times revalving that I would be able to give someone with a similar setup some guidance.  But it doesn't seem anyone can make suggestions for me.  :'(

Let me know when you get it figured out......  Best I can do at this point.  ???

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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 07:47:24 AM »
Every car is different even if the same exact design due to differing driving styles,therefore, there is no way to give a guideline but since most people wouldn't know good from bad a generic 50/50 or so is provided unless something different is requested.
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 08:08:07 AM »
So pulling ### outta my butt is the way to go.  rofl drowning rofl  Shock guy ask for bunch of stuff, weight, travel, angle of shock, ratio.  So it sounds like when you order, go ahead and get some revalve stuff too.  Gonna try and get close, I probably wont know the difference anyhow.

Fox 2.0 air  no coilover.  Under impression they come 40/60
« Last Edit: November 27, 2010, 08:09:40 AM by Carlriddle »
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 08:21:03 AM »
You IRS guys may differ...But I like a high rebound rate in the front...Keeps the front light but the tires on the ground more for steering. 90-10 to 80-20
I like the rear rebound quite a bit slower on the rebound 30 - 40 That allows for the rear to squat some and keep the weight transfer longer and tends to not jack rabbit on most jumps and obsticals you may encounter
Makes it toupher for pulling wheelies...but in the woods...wheelies= tree bark in your teeth

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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 09:38:14 AM »
gO WITH THE 40/60 AND SEE IF YOU LIKE IT. iF NOT PLAY WITH OIL LEVELS/VISCOSITY/nitrogen pressures. Then start over with different valving if you don't get it to where you like it. This is a trial and error thing. 
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 12:38:36 PM »
mine are 60/80..... we will see how they work..  soon enough.
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2010, 12:56:24 PM »
60 -80?
Valving  usually equals 100  ::)
Prolly 60/40
A 50/50 shock is basically neutral   same rebound and dampening
A 90/10 shock rises fast and compresses slow
Where as a 60/40 shock droops 20% faster/easier than it rebounds 8)

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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 03:31:17 PM »
#60 one way and #80 the other.  It's not a total of 100 with fox.
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2010, 04:49:16 PM »
With the Fox airs, the first number is compression, second is rebound. The set I got came from OffRoad Warehouse valved 30/90 and tended to pack down because of the soft compression and slow rebound. I've got 45/65 in them now and they're better, not sure if they could be improved upon. The biggest improvement was adding the maximum ammount of oil, making them more progressive.

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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2010, 06:14:52 PM »
On another forum I read of several guys running like 60-40.  Made the wheels drop back down faster and not skipping the top. 

Just so I'm clear as mud, on Fox shocks, higher number = ????
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2010, 06:21:33 PM »
higher # = slower

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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2010, 06:25:37 PM »
 ::)
I've never played with fox airs/...I was just guesing, from what I know from roundy roun coil overs

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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2010, 06:47:30 PM »
yea my shocks have it ingraved on the cap, 60/80
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Re: Fox shock valving??
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2010, 09:47:34 PM »
Valving is to be thought of as the fine tuning done after the rough tuning of spring rates or nitrogen pressure/oil .
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
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Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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