*the everything from scratch buggy- by voodoo*

[artie on edge]

certainly looks like it Dentech, is that her go pedal or her whoa pedal in the pic?

[Voodoochikin04]

punk-- i know what your saying, and im also basing what im saying from his expierience and i put all my trust into his knowledge. i have known him since i was 15 and now im 23, not once has he been wrong with his descision making for me..lol.  those hubs are massivly thick compared to others. my axle is 1"3/8. the tool bit key stock is extremely extrmely hard.  but we will see...

about the wheels, i had a set of quad rims and took them there. he wouldnt drill them because they were not very thick at all. these rims i have now that are drilled were pretty darn thick, double the others.  5/16 i believe.   again, i will monitor the wheels carfully. thank you for the look out!!!

artie- yea there are alot of things on my buggy i hate!!!!! the parts i hate where things i did when i first started it with no knowledge.  :-[ ha. but then the recent things i have done to it i love, so i really dont wanna tear it all apart to remove the ugly nastiness parts. oh well.  IMO... its come along 1000 times better than the first picture i took of it. hahahaha..  thanks for all the comments guys!!!!!!!!

[artie on edge]

you go dude, youre doin a great job

[fabr]

ditto!!!

[Voodoochikin04]

ok let me make one thing clear. im not taking offense to anyones posts, just incase it appears that way. and im not ignoring anything either. i know the risk factors of certain things that have been pointed out and im taking the risks. if my keys shear off or my hubs break or my axle breaks, nobody needs to rub it in my face and say i told ya so, because i know its all a possibility.     ok back on subject,  i picked up my axle today, and also got these cobalt steel tool bit keystock.  $10 for the keyways to be cut, and 5$ a piece for the keys.

[Yummi]

Nice pussy.

[fabr]

I'm not making a call one way or the other about the wisdom of keys for your particular application but I will say that using tool steel stock for the key stock is a good idea IMO.

[Voodoochikin04]

and after doing a little more research, i could have just used carbon steel tool stock. it has the same properties as the high speed cobalt steel, untill high temperatures are introduced then the advantages of the cobalt come out. the specialty fab and machine place i got the bits from, the owner told me that what i'll most likely see is the keyways spreading out but about never breaking, "forever is a long time"

[fabr]

Keyways can be strong but shaft strength is compromised compared to splines due to the root diameter of of the shaft being reduced more that splines require.

[fabr]

I'm not saying your setup will or will not be adequate, just pointing out a principle that's good to know.

[Voodoochikin04]

yea but where am i gonna find slplined shaft and splined hubs? i would need a certain length axle, with about 3 inches on either side splined.. then i would need 4 splined hubs of the same length of the ones i have. and then make new mounting plates to weld to the hubs..  how much $ we talking bout?

[Yummi]

I say don't rework, run till it breaks.   Then rework.  At this point the goal is running and SAFE.  While a keyed vs splined might be a very small safety issue, in my mind you would only be setting yourself back on the larger goal to make the change now. 

[fabr]

I pretty much agree. We don't KNOW if it's OK or not.  If it holds up well you saved yourself a lot of rework and at least several $$. If it breaks you redo then.

[SPEC]

VDC4,
Wait till it breaks then fix it... Don't start second guessing your self now...It will discourage you ..But keep these things in mind for the next build

[fabr]

Definitely agree.