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Offline sandvw

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converting external alternator to internal
« on: June 04, 2012, 08:41:58 PM »
Has anyone converted an external alternator to a internal one. How do the wires need to be connected to the alternator an  how do they need to be changed on the old voltage regulator?
Is there a wiring diagram for this conversion?
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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 08:56:28 PM »
Over my head. I have a good friend that owns an electric  rebuild shop. If no one has the answer i can ask him.
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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 06:32:22 AM »
Has anyone converted an external alternator to a internal one. How do the wires need to be connected to the alternator an  how do they need to be changed on the old voltage regulator?
Is there a wiring diagram for this conversion?
Thanks
DAN

What-cha trying to do Dan?  This a buggy thing or a fork lift thing? I don't recall anything in the automotive line of and alternator that had a regulator other then the old VW's.

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 06:45:29 AM »
My alternator went out of the BAJA and the only alernator on the shelf is an internal one. I went on the internet and have printed off some information but confusing to me. I also have different colored wires too. I thought someone might have done it on the site.
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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 07:24:18 AM »
I just made the connection who you are sandvw. How's it going Dan? Had a great time in Yuma!  My guy is out of town today to ask. WHy don't you post up the info you have to see if we can help with that.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 07:39:25 AM »
I am doing just fine. I have my buggy and BAJA out here in Ca. working on them getting ready for the Idaho trip. I am not taking the BAJA but it just needed some attention. Hard to believe I have been out here 6 years now.

I went to google and put in what I am trying to do and came back with 2 pages on from one guy and 6 from another one. The one from speedy Jim I am still trying to read. The other read is Rob and Dave's Aircooled Volkswagen pages. I have time to read on this as I am busy tonight and tomorrow night, then Friday my wife and I are going to Phoenix for the weekend. My son moved back in February and I have not been there yet.

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2012, 08:51:49 AM »
My alternator went out of the BAJA and the only alernator on the shelf is an internal one. I went on the internet and have printed off some information but confusing to me. I also have different colored wires too. I thought someone might have done it on the site.
DAN

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Has the new ATL got just one large ten gauge wire and and B+ terminal on it? Isn't that the one where you only have to have a 12V pos to the B+ to excite the ATL and then one large ten gauge wire to the batt?

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2012, 09:50:42 AM »
Yes but you have to do something with the wires on the old regulator too. I am trying to read the information on this too. Some of my wires are a different color.

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2012, 10:30:01 AM »
I "think" you need to just connect the one red +12V output from the alternator to the 12+ feed out of the original regulator that leads to the fuse box.   It's been 36 years since I worked in the VW dealership.I could be very wrong .
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"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2012, 10:50:56 AM »
I think that just having 12V to the  B+ is going to excite the ATL and then with the ten gauge run to the batt you're good to go.  Your atl light mite need something different in the way of wiring to work.

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2012, 11:08:02 AM »
I believe we're saying the same thing.
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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 " You have all the right in the world to believe any damn thing you'd like, but you don't have the right to demand that I agree with your fantasy"

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Re: converting external alternator to internal
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2012, 05:56:33 PM »
Your both right. 8) 8) 8)
« Last Edit: June 05, 2012, 06:04:04 PM by trans man »

 

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