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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2011, 12:54:14 AM »
Reidy,

     I wasn't trying to piss you off mate, I didn't want to see you fook up your new investment or have you risk getting hurt.  I usually tell people I know just enough about electricity to be dangerous.  I wouldn't do it myself, unless I had read all of the wiring diagrams and had a very good understanding of what was going on.  As I was reading your posts, it seemed clear to me that you didn't.  I've seen my share of what I like to call the magic blue smoke. ;D  I have also felt the wrath of high voltage, and I didn't want to share in that experience.

     As for 3 phase. Why do you think you need it?  I run all of our Syncrowaves off of 60A 240V service without any problems.  It has more than enough grunt to burn 1/4" rod, and in DC with Helium I can TIG 1" ALUM plate.  I don't know how much more you'll need than that.  Again I wasn't trying to piss you off mate.  My apologies if I offended you, just didn't want to see you get hurt, or worse fook up the welder.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2011, 02:27:06 AM »
Yeah I was just seeing red when I opened up the thing up and saw Fabrs reply and then looked down and saw yours, well I went off! The thing is I guess I should have said at the begining that I didn't know much about wiring and I'm not keen on it, as a matter of fact if I can get someone else to do it I will. I wasn't trying to make out I knew what I was talking about I was telling what I had been told and asking questions. The three phase thing, Im not sure about that either I thought if I went that route the machine would perform better/ or atleast I could use it. I'm not really sure what is the maximum ampreage you can have here. I tried to google it today and couldn't find it.  eyes I'm learning about this shit as I go. As far as I know 15 amps is as high as the amperage goes in Aus. But in saying that I have seen advertised the 415 volt but not sure of the amps.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2011, 05:54:16 AM »
Yeah it's got me worried too, I've been looking but can't find any decent info about the stupid thing. The other thing is I'm not sure on the amps, I don't know what the maximum is. Cause you say 50 amps when you were talking earlier. Also I can't hook my shed up to 3phase cause the council will say I can't have the shed cause of zoning. But I've been looking into those converters, you plug in single phase and it converts it to 3phase.
You do not need 3 phase. I said 50 amp earlier due to just using it as a minimum,rule of thumb, for most cracker box welders . I had not looked at the manual at the time .  If you want to know the actual input amps needed for your unit for any given input voltage  you need to verify your input voltage and refer to the charts in the owners manual.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2011, 05:56:59 AM »
The only way you could possibly need 3 phase or even 440v is if Oz does not supply 50-100 amp single phase 220v service.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2011, 12:05:21 PM »
I'm pretty sure all synchros are single phase.  So three phase may not even be an option.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2011, 04:48:59 PM »
You do not need 3 phase. I said 50 amp earlier due to just using it as a minimum,rule of thumb, for most cracker box welders . I had not looked at the manual at the time .  If you want to know the actual input amps needed for your unit for any given input voltage  you need to verify your input voltage and refer to the charts in the owners manual.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2011, 05:35:04 PM »
So what did the miller rep say about making it com[pliant?
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2011, 10:03:27 PM »
That's the thing he's avoided the question nicely the POS. kick
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #69 on: February 15, 2011, 10:43:58 PM »
What's it really matter if it is compliant or not?  If you were running a business I might say differently, but for personal use on your own property, I say tell the electrician you need a 60 amp welder outlet.  After he leaves, wheel it out, plug the fooker in and use it.  It may not be compliant, but it is safe and not likely to cause any problems for anybody else anyway.

I say 60 amp cuz my sync 200 will trip a 50 if run for more than a couple minutes wide open welding aluminum.
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #70 on: February 15, 2011, 10:55:54 PM »
Yeah I think I'm gonna hafta, cause they either don't know what has to be done exactly or they don't want to tell me for fear that I will try and do it myself. :o
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2011, 06:47:12 AM »
Hook it up as we've discussed and be happy. NO one willl be the wiser.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2011, 06:18:26 AM »
Yeah I'm gunna take it to an old guy that repairs welders he a smart guy he said we'll get it straightened out. Hey Fabr whats the go with ya Signature bizo?
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2011, 06:50:25 AM »
There was a fubar this morning. Working on it.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
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Re: A question for the guys that know about welders and welding...
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2011, 09:39:05 AM »
Hook it up as we've discussed and be happy. NO one willl be the wiser.

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