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Snoopy

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half shaft semi t-arm ?
« on: May 18, 2010, 07:22:34 PM »
Hey in here,
This is the CV that I'm using. HOW it will be used is still being decided.

I have read for hours about the different rear end designs. Based on what I've read I want to go with trailing or semi trailing arms.
Some say that plunge has to be considered with this type of arm. My question is will this type of CV be okay with the amount of plunge trailing or semi's will induce or am I asking for trouble ?     ???
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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 07:46:34 PM »
That's a non plunging cv I think and will require slip shaft axles.Nothing wrong with that but design in as little plunge as you possibly can to avoid any possible issues with the slipshafts.
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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 07:56:25 PM »
The outer rounded joint is non plunging but can do a great angle to steer the car as its a front driveshaft (looks to be VW)

The inner joint has some plunge but MUCH less angle than the outer that it can go to.

IMO using that on a trailing arm will mean very little travel as you will be limited by plunge.
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Snoopy

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 08:00:31 PM »
uh.
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will require slip shaft axles
I was plnning on using a center similar to this. 
If these ideas or parts won't work together, whats my best option ?


and yes, it's from a VW.   ;D        great call !
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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 08:03:37 PM »
Change to a-arms and you can avoid many issues.
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Snoopy

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2010, 08:05:09 PM »
and just for the record, my wheel base is only 65 inches long and 60 inches wide, thats the contact patch numbers.    so getting 12 inches of travel would be plenty for a buggy that small.    am I fartin in a wind storm so far or  ???
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Snoopy

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 08:06:15 PM »
Hey Fabr, do you think body roll will be an issue if I do that ?
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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2010, 08:12:37 PM »
Not if you spring the car right. Yes,there will be a bit more likely but  on a small buggt I don't think it's an issue and on a larger buggy I know enemy has no problems at all with body roll that I know of.  Bottom line,IMO,is that properly sprung with good shock valving make body roll not much of an issue.
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LiveWire

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 01:11:44 PM »
They look to be 80 VW Rabbit. I have bearing carriers for those that can be welded into whatever suspension type you choose. They are a steel sleeve with a lip on one side and a snap ring groove on the other.
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Snoopy

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2010, 06:43:39 PM »
Talk to me dude !   here is the part number from this web site.
You might be able to tell if they will fit by checking. And if they don't, can we talk about you making something for me ?  Thanks
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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2010, 09:45:09 AM »
I can't see a number. If it is an image hosted on a shared site like photobucket, imageshack, etc, it is blocked from the computer I am on. The carriers I have are made for a Set35 bearing which is on the '80 VW Rabbit along with many other VWs as well as other brands such as the Geo Metro.
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Snoopy

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2010, 05:42:01 PM »
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF (1985 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GL (1987 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GT (1987 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GTI (1985 - 1987)
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GTI 16-VALVE (1987 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (1985 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA CARAT 1988
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA DELUXE (1985 - 1986)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA GL (1986 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA GLI (1985 - 1988)
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA GLI 16-VALVE (1987 - 1988)
sorry, kids graduating this week. No free time.

The part number from my order is below in bold. If you go to rockauto.com you can use that part number to do a search.
above is the list of cars the bearing fits. Which is the same list for the hubs I had bought a while back. Hub and bearings from same manufacturer.   Sorry dude but the wife is killin me to get on makin more stuff for the party tomorrow. whew, what a couple weeks its been here.  Thanks and if we have matching parts, please pm a price. If our stuff don't match, would you be interested in me sending you a bearing and having you make a set of carriers ? And how much ?  Hope this made sense. Thanks, snoop 

1988 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8L 1780cc L4 FI (A) [RV] SOHC
BECK/ARNLEY 0513930 Wheel Bearing
Wholesaler Closeout -- 30 Day Warranty $ 14.29    --    2 $ 28.58
Shipping Ground (FedEx or UPS) $ 8.10
Order Total   $ 36.68

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LiveWire

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 02:28:04 PM »
Ball Bearing; Outer Race Radius=0.0197" Bore=1.378" Outer Diameter=2.5984" Width=1.4567" Inner Race Radius=0.126"
Ball Bearing; Bore=1.3386" Outer Diameter=2.5197" Width=1.4567" Inner Race Radius=0.1"

The width is the same so the snap ring groove would be in the right spot. There is plenty of wall thickness to shave them out 2mm. Yeah, I could open a pair up to fit those bearings.
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Snoopy

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 08:13:34 PM »
how much wall thickness would be left to weld onto and

how much for a pair, not counting shipping ?
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LiveWire

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Re: half shaft semi t-arm ?
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 09:05:38 AM »
.2, $100
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