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Automotive Powered Off Road (AKA: Buggys, Jeeps, Trucks, Etc,Etc. ) => Motor and Drivetrain => Topic started by: fabr on October 16, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
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Everything in this weddle unit is new. Everything. All race Weddle stuff stuffed in it. Worth it?
http://www.weddleindustries.com/transaxles/volkswagen/Ultimate-091-Bus-Trans.php (http://www.weddleindustries.com/transaxles/volkswagen/Ultimate-091-Bus-Trans.php)
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I have the same trans in my car. It was built by a local shop, but has the aluminium weddle case and all weddle guts just like the package. It has a beefy aluminium mount that is part of the intermediate housing that also uses the larger mainshaft bearing from the MD4-2D mendeola trans. I got mine from transworks in San diego but have been going to Mcdowell for my service. Transworks will sell just the intermediate housing too.
I heard that dons bus boxes are kick ass too. LMAO Sorry, had to strike on that one.
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I NEED a new aluminum housing also tho to fix this POS Donsbusbox. I have an alum intermediate already. You know where to find an aluminum main case? I'm thinking of buying a new Weddle unit as a spare tho also.
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Your box also has the 300 M input?
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Can't remember the input shaft material. Had the trans shop order my case for me. Not shure where they got it from though. Since the new case I have only cracked an output gear, but I beat the hell out of it. I had a stock case with all weddle guts and broke a few teeth off the pinion. They said it was prob due to a worn out case causing deflection. No real issues with the new case.
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It also uses the larger mainshaft bearing from the MD4-2D mendeola trans.
The mainshaft bearing in the gear carrier housing IS NOT bigger. The MD4-2D uses the exact same bearings in that housing as the 091 does. The MD4-2D also uses the exact same 1st - 4th gear stack as the 091 too. 8) 8) 8)
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You know where to find an aluminum main case?
The aluminum main case is 30% stronger than the OEM magnesium. I can get you one. ;) ;) ;)
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Just quoting transworks' website. Not to say I'm correct. To be honest I was more sold on the solid mounting of the trans than the bearing. I stand corrected though
The mainshaft bearing in the gear carrier housing IS NOT bigger. The MD4-2D uses the exact same bearings in that housing as the 091 does. The MD4-2D also uses the exact same 1st - 4th gear stack as the 091 too. 8) 8) 8)
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To be honest I was more sold on the solid mounting of the trans than the bearing.
The weddle racing alum. gear carrier housing the twice as strong as the OEM gear carrier housing. I won't build a HIGH PERFORMANCE 091 without it. 8) 8) 8)
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Here are pics of the used OEM VS the new Weddle Racing gear carrier housings. There is a BIG difference. Notice were is no sludge or carbon build up on that used OEM gear carrier housing. ;) ;) ;)
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Everything in this weddle unit is new. Everything. All race Weddle stuff stuffed in it. Worth it?
Yes, but is NEEDS the racing gear carrier housing. Everything else is on the money. 8) 8) 8)
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Your box also has the 300 M input?
The Weddle racing 300 M input shaft will reduce the shock load to the gear stack in the transaxle. 8) 8) 8)
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The mainshaft bearing in the gear carrier housing IS NOT bigger. The MD4-2D uses the exact same bearings in that housing as the 091 does. The MD4-2D also uses the exact same 1st - 4th gear stack as the 091 too. 8) 8) 8)
Quoted from transworks
091 SAND/RACE PACKAGE $4795.00 OUTRIGHT
THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE FINEST VW BASED HIGH PERFORMANCE TRANSAXLE THAT IS CURRENTLY POSSIBLE TO BUILD WITH "OFF THE SHELF" PARTS.. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A CORE EXCHANGE, AS THERE ARE VERY FEW VW PARTS USED. A CORE MAY BE TRADED IN IF YOU WISH, THE VALUE OF WHICH WILL BE DETERMINED AFTER DISSASSEMBLY AND INSPECTION. INCLUDES SUPER-DIFF ASSEMBLY WITH NEW WEDDLE RACE GRADE SPIDER GEARS, BILLET CHROMOLY SUPER-DIFF COVER, BILLET CHROMOLY 930 CV FLANGES, WEDDLE RACE GRADE 4.57 RING & PINION SET, ALL 4 WEDDLE RACE GRADE GEARS IN MANY RATIO CHOICES, NEW ALUMINUM NOSE CONE, NEW AFTERMARKET HD CLUTCH CROSSHAFT & ARM, STEEL SHIFT BALL, VENT FILTER, TRANSWORKS BILLET STEEL MAINSHAFT BEARING RETAINER/SHUTTLE LINKAGE BRACKET, AND NEW TRANSWORKS ALUMINUM INTERMEDIATE HOUSING WITH LARGER MAINSHAFT BEARING FROM THE MD4-2D MENDEOLA. THIS NEW HOUSING INCORPORATES PRE-DRILLED HARD POINTS FOR MOUNTING, DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR MOUNT BRACKETS OR NOSE CONE MOUNTING.
ALL OF THIS GOES INTO A NEW, FACTORY VW ALUMINUM MAINCASE. THIS IS AN INPORTANT UPGRADE BECAUSE WHILE THE STOCK MAGNESIUM CASE IS LIGHT AND HAS A HIGH STRENGTH TO WEIGHT RATIO, ALUMINIUM STILL HAS A HIGHER TENSILE STRENGTH. IT IS ALSO PREFERABLE TO USE A NEW CASE THAT HAS NOT BEEN HEATED AND COOLED THOUSANDS OF TIMES OVER SEVERAL DECADES, CAUSING LOSS OF TEMPER AND METAL FATIGUE.
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There trying to blowing SMOKE up some one butt. rofl rofl rofl
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Here are pics of the used OEM VS the new Weddle Racing gear carrier housings. There is a BIG difference. Notice were is no sludge or carbon build up on that used OEM gear carrier housing. ;) ;) ;)
I think transworks started making the intermediate housings and weddle started buying them from them with their name cut in it. Not a big fan of transworks anymore due to a few bad transactions.
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There trying to blowing SMOKE up some one butt. rofl rofl rofl
Good to know
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I think transworks started making the intermediate housings and weddle started buying them from them with their name cut in it. Not a big fan of transworks anymore due to a few bad transactions.
No, it is the other way around. Weddle first offer there aluminum racing gear carrier housing about 5 years ago. 8) 8) 8)
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Yes, but is NEEDS the racing gear carrier housing. Everything else is on the money. 8) 8) 8)
It has it.
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The Weddle racing 300 M input shaft will to reduce the shock load to the gear stack in the transaxle. 8) 8) 8)
I'll agree with that line of thought.
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I hope you guys aren't overlooking that this is about the WEDDLE built 091 and not the TW one ,right? Did you notice the TW load bolt and thrust plate described in the link in the TW 091 thread?
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It has it.
No it does not. It is using an aluminum OEM style gear carrier housing. Only the Weddle racing gear carrier housing as the mounting ears made into it. 8) 8) 8)
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Shane,I'm talking about the Weddle unit in this thread. The weddle built tranny ,made by Weddle ,has it. You guys,I think,are confusing it wit the TW 091 I think.
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I hope you guys aren't overlooking that this is about the WEDDLE built 091 and not the TW one ,right? Did you notice the TW load bolt and thrust plate described in the link in the TW 091 thread?
The load bolt is a nice addition to try to keep the ring gear from pulling away from the pinion, that is caused from the main case flexing. 8) 8) 8)
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The load bolt is a nice addition to try to keep the ring gear from pulling away from the pinion, that is caused from the main case flexing. 8) 8) 8)
I think it's a reason to at least consider the TW unit. I do tho feel more comfortable with the ALL Weddle 091 from Weddle.
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No it does not. It is using an aluminum OEM style gear carrier housing. Only the Weddle racing gear carrier housing as the mounting ears made into it. 8) 8) 8)
If not mistaken Weddle offers the intermediate with and without ears. It's a no cost option on the Weddle 091.
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If not mistaken Weddle offers the intermediate with and without ears. It's a no cost option on the Weddle 091.
On the last HP 091 that I built, my customer wanted a racing gear carrier housing without the ears and Weddle did not offer one. That was 3 months ago. 8) 8) 8)
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I will contact Weddle Industries tomarrow and find out if that is now available. 8) 8) 8)
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On the last HP 091 that I built, my customer wanted a racing gear carrier housing without the ears and Weddle did not offer one. That was 3 months ago. 8) 8) 8)
I have a TW one with the ears cut off if you need one.
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I have a TW one with the ears cut off if you need one.
I would want to see the TW in person first. ;) ;) ;)
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Enjoy the trip down. I'll buy you a meal at The Gulch. ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Here are pics of the used OEM VS the new Weddle Racing gear carrier housings. There is a BIG difference. Notice were is no sludge or carbon build up on that used OEM gear carrier housing. ;) ;) ;)
i still laugh to this day about don's post on the samba about the sludge build up in the case no being sludge but rather carbon build up! LMAO
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Don needs to stick a spark plug up his butt, a coil on his balls and see how much carbon build up he ends up with! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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If not mistaken Weddle offers the intermediate with and without ears. It's a no cost option on the Weddle 091.
Contacted Weddle today and they told me that they will only offer the HD racing gear carrier housing with the ears. They have no plans to make that housing without the mounting ears. 8) 8) 8)
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Cool,I think I can mod it without removing the ears entirely so I can retain at least one bolt/tab per side. Be nice to relieve some load on the nosecone.
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Cool, Be nice to relieve some load on the nosecone.
That it will. 8) 8) 8)
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I actually have mine mounted on both the nose cone lower 4 bolts and the 2 carrier housing bolts. was an after thought.