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Post by: Yummi on July 27, 2013, 03:20:02 PM
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Post by: Yummi on July 27, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Here she sits.  A very good start to upgrade / finish.  Personally I have not yet inspected the car.  Jason at AZPConcepts and I are going over this week to take an up-close and personal look and get a final plan.  From looking at the pictures looks like glass, rear fenders, mirrors, some fab work re: possible nerf bars, address some potential safety issues, etc.  Would really like to swing a full paint job.  That is the one thing that will cost the most.  If you are in the Phoenix area and can work a spray gun, let me know.  I figure we can have a pizza and wet sanding party on day to get the prep done with minimal costs. 


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Post by: fabr on July 27, 2013, 05:19:29 PM
EXCELLENT project. I'll look around the shop to see if I have some things that might help.
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Post by: Yummi on July 27, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
Thanks! 
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Post by: Hammerworks on July 28, 2013, 10:15:31 AM
I've seen that bug on the Samba.

Your a good dude Yummi !
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Post by: Yummi on July 28, 2013, 01:05:30 PM
I've seen that bug on the Samba.

Your a good dude Yummi !

Yes, we have a build thread there as well.  Trying to get soe VW folks to chip in - ride is pure VW baja.

Thanks for the kind words, but you just don't know me well enough.  Then I am pure evil. 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on July 28, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
Sign me up for the rear fenders Yummi.  Find what looks good and send me the link.  You've seen the car so you know what will look nice.   I'll look into a nice set of KC highlighters to go in that top bar.  How about a fuel cell?  There is one on The other site for sale.  I could have it drop shipped to where you got the car. 
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Post by: D Walker on July 28, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
Let's see, i just bought 4 7" HID lights from hondajim and i will probably never use them. I think they are the 55watt, 2 of them are spots and 2 of them are floods. Let me know if they will fit his light bar.

Link to ad http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=278731

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Post by: Yummi on July 28, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Thanks, lights and fenders are huge!  I am supposed to see car this week.  It is reported to be a runner.  So, I dont know about fuel cell.  Trying my dangest to find a local VW mechanic.  Them things escape me. 

Thanks again.  Will post up some more pictures when it is inspected.
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Post by: Punkur67 on July 28, 2013, 11:04:11 PM
Pm me with a parts list. I will jump on it and see if I get some donations for the cause. Nothing feels beter than seeing pure joy and shock on the familys face when you give them the car. Good work sir.
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Post by: Yummi on July 29, 2013, 04:41:42 AM
Thanks again guys, I am looking forward to getting the parts list put together. 

All of the servicemen deserve much more gratitude than they get.  I can't help them all, but with your help we can and will make a difference for this one. 
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Post by: AZPConcepts on July 29, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
Hey everyone just wanted to introduce my self a little bit.  I'm Jason Miller.  Born and raised here in phoenix and own a little fab shop (azp concepts) out in Mesa.  You may have never heard of me and that's ok because I do not take pride in just getting a project out the door but rather doing the project right one vehicle at a time.  Jeff called me up and told me about this and I had to jump on board right away.  I'm a pretty simple guy but theres really only a couple true dreams that I have in this world and one surprisingly enough is to be at a level to where I can spend each day giving back to those who serve our country with surprises when they come home in one way or another.  I ask for nothing in return, it is merely the joy that I receive from it that is priceless so when Jeff mentioned it I knew this would be the start to a long life goal of a way for me to give back and no this will not be my last one but rather the first of many to come each year.  So now that we have that out of the way we can get back to who this is all about.  I will be right next to Jeff trying to help source everything out and any of you can contact me at any time if need be (480-326-3339 or azpconcepts@yahoo.com)  Thank you to everyone who has already helped and stepped up to the plate with donations because as a community whole we can truly make a difference one vehicle or surprise at a time.  If it weren't for these men and woman we would not be able to enjoy life as we know it on a day to day basis.  I am currently trying to set up a painter and a booth but once again if you have someone in mind please let us know.  Once Jeff and I get over to see it we will get a full list together and we will make sure everyone has it.  From there we can truly move forward and get this project finished.  I look forward to this and thank you personally for everything that you guys can help with.
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Post by: D Walker on July 29, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
Welcome to the site and thank you for stepping up to help. It is nice to find people willing to do for others expecting nothing in return but the good feeling you get for doing it.

DW
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Post by: fastcorvairs on July 29, 2013, 02:29:15 PM
Welcome Jason.  So glad you stepped in to help.  Hope to meet up with you some day and shake your hand.   And again welcome to the this site. 
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Post by: Yummi on July 29, 2013, 02:36:40 PM
Glad to see the guy with some skills has come to my rescue; again. 

In case you are all wondering, Jason built this truck.  Turned quite a few heads at the SSSS one year.  That's how I met him.   Now he fixes my breaks, and breaks my bank (teasing.)

Serious good dude and the future of this sand / off road game.
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Post by: Yummi on July 30, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
Sign me up for the rear fenders Yummi.  Find what looks good and send me the link.  You've seen the car so you know what will look nice.   I'll look into a nice set of KC highlighters to go in that top bar.  How about a fuel cell?  There is one on The other site for sale.  I could have it drop shipped to where you got the car.

Thanks fast.  Working on a list.  Brandon aka Kraut and Rice has some rears that I think will work.  DW kicked some HID's.  Zilla68 has kicked an LED for front bull bar.  Once I get a full list will let post up our wish list.  Should be this week. 

The more I can source from folks garage the better off we will be when it comes time to buy stuff.   
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Post by: fastcorvairs on July 30, 2013, 10:24:35 AM
Thanks fast.  Working on a list.  Brandon aka Kraut and Rice has some rears that I think will work.  DW kicked some HID's.  Zilla68 has kicked an LED for front bull bar.  Once I get a full list will let post up our wish list.  Should be this week. 

The more I can source from folks garage the better off we will be when it comes time to buy stuff.   

Ok sounds like you got it all covred. 
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Post by: Yummi on July 30, 2013, 10:27:14 AM
Just for the time being.  The stuff we know about.  There is other stuff, just don't know at this point.
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Post by: D Walker on July 30, 2013, 11:43:59 AM
Ok sounds like you got it all covred.

Just write a big check. We both know you can do that.  LMAO
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Post by: Yummi on July 30, 2013, 11:48:07 AM
What I need to do is stick fast and mastr on a plane, lock them in the garage with duct tape and bailing wire and this project would be done in no time flat.    :D
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Post by: fastcorvairs on July 30, 2013, 02:07:47 PM
What I need to do is stick fast and mastr on a plane, lock them in the garage with duct tape and bailing wire and this project would be done in no time flat.    :D

 LMAO LMAO LMAO
Number one there ain't enough duck tape and bailing wire to go around this old boy.  Number two me and master are closet ninjas and we'll just,  well we will do something.  Dwight and Yummi could buy and sell Master or I any day.  We all know that for a fact.  rofl
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Post by: Yummi on July 31, 2013, 10:30:11 AM
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Post by: D Walker on July 31, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
Could you source the remaining parts /pics and web vendors? Might make it easy to make the call and have them drop shipped.
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Post by: Yummi on July 31, 2013, 01:13:26 PM
Could you source the remaining parts /pics and web vendors? Might make it easy to make the call and have them drop shipped.

Will be doing just that.  Give me a bit.  Sometimes the real job gets in the way.   rofl
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Post by: IronCoffin on August 01, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
Hello everyone. My name is Mike and I am the brother of the Marine that Yummi has so graciously decide to help. Like Yummi has stated, my brother is currently on active duty with the USMC station in Quantico, VA. This bug was his car in high school and quickly turned into a flower pot in my parents yard after getting married and having kids (sound familiar?). After his first deployment to Iraq he started working on his first love, doing favors, making trades and occasionally spending some of his illustrious military salary :). Four years ago he deployed to Okinawa with the family and I offered to store his bug in my garage. While in Okinawa he had to deploy to Afghanistan for his last 6 months. Before he could get all the sand out of his ears, he received orders to Virginia and that is where we are know. Thank you for all your help and donations. I honestly had no plan of this happening but Yummi has stepped up big time! Coming from a former Marine and professional firefighter, it is good to see so many great people still out there. Semper Fi!!! Ironcoffinaz@gmail.com
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Post by: Carlriddle on August 01, 2013, 11:45:20 AM
Thank him for his service!  Thats the way we roll here at DTS.  Too far for me to ship much unless its small, so I'm waiting for the list of smalls to pop up.  Otherwise I'll throw some electric $$$ westward. 
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Post by: fabr on August 01, 2013, 01:26:00 PM
Pretty much the same here. I had a light bar but someone gave an LED unit. I'm all out of stuff laying around unless one seat would help. LOL!!!! Print up the punch list yummi as soon as you can.
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Post by: fabr on August 01, 2013, 01:33:01 PM
What I need to do is stick fast and mastr on a plane, lock them in the garage with duct tape and bailing wire and this project would be done in no time flat.    :D
You have more faith in me than I do. WHen is this project needing finished by?
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Post by: Carlriddle on August 01, 2013, 01:44:59 PM
What I need to do is stick fast and mastr on a plane, lock them in the garage with duct tape and bailing wire and this project would be done in no time flat.    :D

Best thing would be get Walker to pick it up and drop by Fabrs.   rofl
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Post by: fabr on August 01, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
Hmmmmm.......................
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Post by: Yummi on August 02, 2013, 09:13:50 AM
Now Paypal enabled.   Will get final list up later today.....  here is the link for paypal. 

http://gfwd.at/18JzOkf (http://gfwd.at/18JzOkf)
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Post by: Yummi on August 02, 2013, 01:56:58 PM
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Post by: D Walker on August 02, 2013, 02:04:48 PM
I will be picking up HIDs this weekend, just need addy to ship please.
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Post by: Yummi on August 06, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 06, 2013, 01:40:02 PM
Yummi

Got two of these on there way to your door.  They will accept 1.0 or 2.5 pound bottles. PM me when they arrive.
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Post by: Yummi on August 06, 2013, 01:41:15 PM
Sweet!  Will do.  Thanks.  Working on the air cleaner dealio - will be updating list soon.  Important to keep track of it all. 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 06, 2013, 01:52:37 PM
Got eight of these on the way to your addy.  K4 sand sealed and the good ones.  Four of them are off/on, two are momentary on. Two are momentary off up and on down. 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 06, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
Ok i'm done now.  For now.  eyes
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Post by: Yummi on August 06, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
Ok i'm done now.  For now.  eyes

 :-*  - in a manly sort of bro hug way.

Thank you!
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Post by: fabr on August 06, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Yummi

Got two of these on there way to your door.  They will accept 1.0 or 2.5 pound bottles. PM me when they arrive.
WEll,heck,I want some too! WHere'd they come from.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 06, 2013, 02:21:30 PM
Will hell you can't have the brackets with out extinguishers. So Here come two your way.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 06, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
Here's the link Master.

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/drake-off-road-fire-extinguisher-mount-firex-mnt-dor.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=productfeed&utm_campaign=cse&gclid=CKGq6PXS6bgCFWJp7AodqWAAig (http://www.jeep4x4center.com/drake-off-road-fire-extinguisher-mount-firex-mnt-dor.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=productfeed&utm_campaign=cse&gclid=CKGq6PXS6bgCFWJp7AodqWAAig)
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 06, 2013, 02:25:33 PM
Will hell you can't have the brackets with out extinguishers. So Here come two your way.

I think they will mount to the brackets with screw clamps.  The bottles come with just the wall mounts on them that you can take off and discard.
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Post by: Yummi on August 06, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
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Post by: fabr on August 06, 2013, 07:17:40 PM
I need a new whip light. Guess who will get my business.
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Post by: Yummi on August 07, 2013, 07:47:48 AM
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Post by: Yummi on August 07, 2013, 11:26:12 AM
One of the challenges on a project like this is allowing the vision to be shared.  With thanks to Dale Bartley we have a Photoshop rendition of what will be close to the final car.  This will likely change a bit, and the  colors are just a skoosh off, (light blue to match interior and camo tan lowers) but close enough to share the vision. 

Here the car is all loaded up ready to start its journey with the first stop at Perri's German Autobahn www.perrisgermanautobahn.com

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Here is the photo shop of the finished car. 

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I am confident that Jeremy Huebsch at Goldies Paint and Body  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Goldies-Paint-and-Body/256945221055264  will be able to make our vision better than expected.
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Post by: D Walker on August 07, 2013, 11:34:57 AM
Looks like prep is easy with plasti coat. Just wash and a little tape.
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Post by: Yummi on August 07, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Car is "rough" to touch.  we will be sanding, etc to smooth and prep just to be certain. 
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Post by: IronCoffin on August 07, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
Dropped her off this am with Perri at his shop.

Perri's German Autobahn
2221 W. Broadway Rd.  Mesa, Arizona 85202 
602-930-9676

Thanks again to everyone that has pitched in. My brother started this project with I.O.U's, favors, and trading while he was stationed in California at Camp Pendleton. He's always asking me about it and worried that I'm storing crap in and on it. I hope I get to meet all of you and can't wait to surprise my little brother. Thanks!!!
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Post by: fabr on August 07, 2013, 01:25:31 PM
Just tell him you'll try to get the bird poop off before he gets back.
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Post by: Yummi on August 07, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
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Post by: Carlriddle on August 08, 2013, 01:31:17 PM
 jj:

Radio will be in my future, now I know who it will be from.
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Post by: D Walker on August 08, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
What's he got for seats and how old are his seat belts?
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Post by: Yummi on August 08, 2013, 02:51:32 PM
What's he got for seats and how old are his seat belts?

New.  Good shape.  The back seat is worthless but for a dog.  But all new some belts are still in the box.  We are good there. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 09, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
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Post by: fabr on August 09, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
Shouldn't be a big deal,pull a jug/piston,do a quick valve grind,seat the cylinder to the head if not burned too bad to seat and bolt back on. Easy peasy.
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Post by: Yummi on August 09, 2013, 06:55:56 PM
Shouldn't be a big deal,pull a jug/piston,do a quick valve grind,seat the cylinder to the head if not burned too bad to seat and bolt back on. Easy peasy.

Lets hope so. 
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Post by: fabr on August 09, 2013, 07:39:35 PM
if the piston is bad just have to slap on new set. We would pull,dissassemble complete engine, do valve job,line bore,reassemble and put back in bug  same day easily,sometimes 2 a day when I worked at the dealership in the mid 70's. i loved workng on the things.
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Post by: Yummi on August 11, 2013, 09:01:56 AM
One of the things going on for this build is a new air cleaner that will be custom made from Fast.  We can inscribe the top.  All I can think of is Semper Fi.  I have asked Mike to join the conversation, but can anybody else think of a short saying to put on this part? 

Semper Fi
OoRah!

Any others?
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 11, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
One of the things going on for this build is a new air cleaner that will be custom made from Fast.  We can inscribe the top.  All I can think of is Semper Fi.  I have asked Mike to join the conversation, but can anybody else think of a short saying to put on this part? 

Semper Fi
OoRah!

Any others?

This lid will be about eight inch's long and four wide.  One hold down bolt hole in the middle.  We need something to rap around both end's.  That would be a four inch radii. 
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Post by: fabr on August 11, 2013, 02:57:51 PM
Why not,in small tasteful engraving or maybe lasered ,acknowledge the websites and businesses that helped out on the project on one end and as many individuals as possible on the other end with a large semper fi in the middle with the marines insignia machined into or better yet raised above the cover surface ?
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 11, 2013, 03:15:23 PM
Why not,in small tasteful engraving or maybe lasered ,acknowledge the websites and businesses that helped out on the project on one end and as many individuals as possible on the other end with a large semper fi in the middle with the marines insignia machined into or better yet raised above the cover surface ?

Find me a cad on the insignia and we run with that much of it.  I think to get all the names on we will need a lot more space.  Even if I go supper small.
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Post by: Yummi on August 11, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
Why not,in small tasteful engraving or maybe lasered ,acknowledge the websites and businesses that helped out on the project on one end and as many individuals as possible on the other end with a large semper fi in the middle with the marines insignia machined into or better yet raised above the cover surface ?

A plan is in the works for something to acknowledge support.  That small an area is too small. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 11, 2013, 04:15:54 PM

I found a forum with dfx files.  Everything else i found seems to be crap download this that or the other.   

http://plasmaspider.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=957 (http://plasmaspider.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=957)

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Post by: fabr on August 11, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
Would it be improper to have semper/insignia/fi  ,in that order ?
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 11, 2013, 09:36:34 PM
Would it be improper to have semper/insignia/fi  ,in that order ?

I think it would be cooler to have the insignia in the middle some way and the semper around the top and then fi on the bottom in a rap.
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Post by: fabr on August 12, 2013, 07:15:55 AM
You know best what would look good.  Is it approximately 4"x8" or is it 8" x 4"? I just assumed it was short and wide and not narrow and tall.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 07:29:46 AM
You know best what would look good.  Is it approximately 4"x8" or is it 8" x 4"? I just assumed it was short and wide and not narrow and tall.

It is 7.3 long and 4.3 wide to be exact.  I will do up some dxf files and post them up. Yummi needs to start a voting theard here and on gd.com and I will post the files on them for people to vote.  How's that sound?  I just sent a pm to Esco and ask his permission to use some of his profound statement. 

(cherishing each moment   rejoicing each dream.)  This is a shortened version of it.  I like (All giver some  Some give all). 

Just going to be to many to choose from so going to have to settle on one.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 07:40:47 AM
Would it be improper to have semper/insignia/fi  ,in that order ?

To answer you question no I don't think so.  Semper above the insignia and fi below it. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 07:41:43 AM
No need for a poll.  Mike said Semper Fi so lets put that on top?  Logo in middle?  And what is Esco's saying on the bottom?

Wrap

Logo

Wrap
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Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2013, 09:00:41 AM
I think somewhere it should say "YOU'VE JUST BEEN YUMMIED".

I am not kidding one bit. What yummi does and will continue to do, needs to be branded. I think with yummi leading the way and our support, as well ae others, this could do a lot of good for a lot of people. I like RAK (random acts of kindness)
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 11:07:27 AM
I think somewhere it should say "YOU'VE JUST BEEN YUMMIED".

I am not kidding one bit. What yummi does and will continue to do, needs to be branded. I think with yummi leading the way and our support, as well ae others, this could do a lot of good for a lot of people. I like RAK (random acts of kindness)

Thanks for the nice thought, but doing RAK should not be celebrated.  Should be the norm.  You know as well as I that some lead by example.  That is the best way to do it.   Glad to say I know a few here and there that always step up.  The recognition is not the important part. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
Final verdict on the whammy. 

Somebody tried to repair cracked heads.  That did not work.  So, we are looking for a set of 1915 heads.  We will need to get the step cut and set for a 94 bore?  (I confess, that is Greek to me.)  Anybody have anything sitting around that would work? 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Final verdict on the whammy. 

Somebody tried to repair cracked heads.  That did not work.  So, we are looking for a set of 1915 heads.  We will need to get the step cut and set for a 94 bore?  (I confess, that is Greek to me.)  Anybody have anything sitting around that would work?

How about here?
http://www.mofoco.com/item/REBUILT_DUAL_PORT_CYLINDER_HEAD/238/c68 (http://www.mofoco.com/item/REBUILT_DUAL_PORT_CYLINDER_HEAD/238/c68)

Also if you can find the bear heads I have all the 40MM intake and 35.5 exhaust SS valves.  I all so have the 42 MM and 39 MM SS packed back in a cabinet somewhere.  All you would need to keep off the old ones is the springs retainers and keepers.  let me know.   
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 02:32:53 PM
How about here?
http://www.mofoco.com/item/REBUILT_DUAL_PORT_CYLINDER_HEAD/238/c68 (http://www.mofoco.com/item/REBUILT_DUAL_PORT_CYLINDER_HEAD/238/c68)

Also if you can find the bear heads I have all the 40MM intake and 35.5 exhaust SS valves.  I all so have the 42 MM and 39 MM SS packed back in a cabinet somewhere.  All you would need to keep off the old ones is the springs retainers and keepers.  let me know.

Heres one more.
http://www.partsplaceinc.com/catalog/vw-air-cooled-beetle-ghia-air-cooled-engines-pistons-heads-cylinders136.shtml (http://www.partsplaceinc.com/catalog/vw-air-cooled-beetle-ghia-air-cooled-engines-pistons-heads-cylinders136.shtml)
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 02:34:28 PM
Final verdict on the whammy. 

Somebody tried to repair cracked heads.  That did not work.  So, we are looking for a set of 1915 heads.  We will need to get the step cut and set for a 94 bore?  (I confess, that is Greek to me.)  Anybody have anything sitting around that would work?

You say 1915? That means the motor has 90.5 Cylinders right?
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Post by: D Walker on August 12, 2013, 02:42:28 PM
I think so yes, so it would take a 94mm bore. Been awhile but I think that's right.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 02:59:25 PM
I think so yes, so it would take a 94mm bore. Been awhile but I think that's right.

You mite be right.  Stock stroke w/9.5 cly's would be 1650cc, stock stroke w/92 MM cyl's would be 1835 cc then put 94 mm cyl's on it would make it a 1915 cc motor. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 04:11:18 PM
He said 1915 bored to 94 cyl so my guess is that is it?  Fast if you want to call Perri and speak the same language let me know?  I have some calls into local machine shops that do VW stuff.  Maybe I can get them on board? 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
He said 1915 bored to 94 cyl so my guess is that is it?  Fast if you want to call Perri and speak the same language let me know?  I have some calls into local machine shops that do VW stuff.  Maybe I can get them on board?

If you want to buy heads I think we should go with new only.  Anything rebuilt is only going to be a headache for him latter down the road.  Them heads have all been rebuilt so many times and the metal in them is trash. What we need to do is find some new bare heads.  I can furnish all the valves in SS for them and have your buddy bore them for 94's. If we have time send them to me and I will take care of them. Still have all my old head and block boring stuff. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 04:42:56 PM
Lets see what we can come up with here local in the next couple of days......  we can go from there.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
Something else.  Have them weld in an 1.25 tube across the roll bar just behind the driver and passenger's head, about eight to ten inches, and I can supply you with a set of headset and shoulder belt hangers like in my car.
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Post by: fabr on August 12, 2013, 07:50:30 PM
Like a bunch of kids playing with their old toys! You guys are in heaven or at least will make it someday!  oorah!!! Carry on!
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Yummi
If one head is cracked then I would not fix it.  Buy the time you pull the valve seats out and weld it up you can chase a crack for a long ways.  Reseat it and you still have the potential for the crack to reform.  I would really hate for the car to cough up the motor sixty days down the road and him to just give up on it. 
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Post by: fabr on August 12, 2013, 08:18:24 PM
listen to him yummi.
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
Two rebuilt heads @ 325 is  what machine shop said.  Dont think he i speaking of repairing just one, or even using the core.  They are goners. 

Any specific questions I need to ask?
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
We need two of these. Brand new.  Virgin material.

http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/product-detail.aspx?keyword=VW+Beetle+Bus+Cylinder+Head43-101-355&sku=1131 (http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/product-detail.aspx?keyword=VW+Beetle+Bus+Cylinder+Head43-101-355&sku=1131)

How we going to make it happen?
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 08:31:07 PM
Two rebuilt heads @ 325 is  what machine shop said.  Dont think he i speaking of repairing just one, or even using the core.  They are goners. 

Any specific questions I need to ask?

Just a couple hundred or so more and we can have new ones.  I use to do them for a living.  I don't care how good the core was.  They still had the potential to crack out.  in just a few hour's of running. 

Ah hell Yummi take the $325 and I'll throw in the balance for the new ones.
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
IDK.  Let me keep digging and talk to local machine shop for clarification.  Yes, virgin would be good, but proper install from Perri B and rebuilt might last a long time.  As little time is apparently on this motor I would guess something was overlooked on match up / build?
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
Do the new ones need machine work? 
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 08:35:46 PM
I will make some more calls in the AM. 
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Post by: IronCoffin on August 12, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
It boggles my mind how fast the people on this message board step up. I'm a little like Yummi when it comes to cars, I like to drive them more than I like to fix them. That said I just wanted to give Yummi and the rest of you a shout out for all your help. Thanks again, Mike.  mm: mm: mm: mm: mm:
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 12, 2013, 08:47:46 PM
Do the new ones need machine work?

Will need to be cut for the larger cylinders. 
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Post by: fabr on August 12, 2013, 08:53:33 PM
Good head makes for a happy marine yummi.................................Don't screw around with a cheap hooker.  ;D
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Post by: Yummi on August 12, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
Good head makes for a happy marine yummi.................................Don't screw around with a cheap hooker.  ;D

 LMAO
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Post by: Carlriddle on August 13, 2013, 05:19:07 AM
Good head makes for a happy marine yummi.................................Don't screw around with a cheap hooker.  ;D
^^^What he said X 2 cause theres 2 heads.  Difinatly dont mess with crack head cause you can put them thru rehab but theres always a little memory crack in there.
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Post by: Yummi on August 16, 2013, 09:08:29 AM
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 16, 2013, 09:30:04 AM
Done and done. 

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mahle-94mm-Cylinder-Set-Type-1-Based-Engines-Set-p/94mm-type-1-cylinders.htm (http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mahle-94mm-Cylinder-Set-Type-1-Based-Engines-Set-p/94mm-type-1-cylinders.htm)

Should arrive at your door in three days. 


ITEM DETAILS

Part Number Item Qty Item
Subtotal Grand Total
94mm-TYPE-1-CYLINDERS Mahle 94mm Cylinders, Type 1 Based Engines, 69 and 82mm Strokes, Set of 4
 1 $169.95 $169.95
 
  Parts Subtotal:  $169.95
  Tax:  $0.00
  Shipping Cost:  $51.30
  Grand Total:  $221.25
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Post by: Yummi on August 16, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
Done and done. 

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mahle-94mm-Cylinder-Set-Type-1-Based-Engines-Set-p/94mm-type-1-cylinders.htm (http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mahle-94mm-Cylinder-Set-Type-1-Based-Engines-Set-p/94mm-type-1-cylinders.htm)

Should arrive at your door in three days. 


ITEM DETAILS

Part Number Item Qty Item
Subtotal Grand Total
94mm-TYPE-1-CYLINDERS Mahle 94mm Cylinders, Type 1 Based Engines, 69 and 82mm Strokes, Set of 4
 1 $169.95 $169.95
 
  Parts Subtotal:  $169.95
  Tax:  $0.00
  Shipping Cost:  $51.30
  Grand Total:  $221.25

Thank you! 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 16, 2013, 09:39:53 AM
Glad to help.
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Post by: Yummi on August 16, 2013, 09:49:03 AM
Another issue resolved:

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name='Kraut_n_Rice' post='4514377' date='Aug 16 2013, 08:58 AM']I have a pretty large oil cooler w/electric fan left over from another project.  Added to the pile..



BTW, Thank you MastrFbr for the paypal.......   You rock. 
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Post by: fabr on August 16, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
Naw,I just have tremors. Wish I could do more at the moment.
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Post by: Yummi on August 17, 2013, 05:01:53 PM

Well, the tear down is complete.  Not as good as I had hoped for. 

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well the tear down didnt go too well on the engine.  Case needs work- 1 main case stud pulled out of the engine because the wrong fasteners were used and it galled up the threads.  One main case stud completely stripped out.  The case was not decked for the 94mm cylinders.  The case was so sloppily covered in RTV there was no doubt it would have gotten into the oil pump.  It had the wrong oil screen in the sump that would have led to oil starvation.  The lifters looked like they were faced on a belt sander, the cam bearings are shot and look like old reused units.  The rods did not look rebuilt but will probably(still need to be inspected) be okay, the crank and bearings looked serviceable.  With the step in the heads and from how far down the pistons were in the cylinders it looked to be around .185 in deck height along with semi hemi heads!  Probably had 6:1 compression.  All in all one of the worst rebuilt engines Ive seen.  However, if Kenny finds the case to be serviceable it shouldnt take too much in parts and labor to put it back together.

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Thanks Matt and Perri!

That engine is going to need some help. Crappy rebuild. It appears to have a standard sized bearings though. The Case had one of the Studs unscrew with the nut and another had been cross threaded when the nut was put on. Too bad it wasn't the one that backed out! LOL

I'll let one of them elaborate as I really don't know enough to sound intelligent. Lots of silicone in places I don't think it should have been , around bearings, etc. the lifters also appear to have been sanded with a belt sander. I guess one of the Oil rings was also installed wrong..?

Thanks guys for the hard work on what is arguably on of the hotter days here in Phoenix.  On the bright side we are almost on a downhill side. 
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Post by: Yummi on August 17, 2013, 08:40:43 PM
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No big deal!  It wasnt that hot in there. 
Here are some pics-
Talk about deck height!  Case not decked for the 94 cylinders
(https://dtsfab.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.thesamba.com%2Fvw%2Fgallery%2Fpix%2F1099897.jpg&hash=96c5d1bcca3ad5790b2c93327d78225265e27ba7)
RTV everywhere!
(https://dtsfab.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.thesamba.com%2Fvw%2Fgallery%2Fpix%2F1099895.jpg&hash=91e0083c4f5fdc0a167fd0c0c51ddb9dd4287296)
welded semi heads
(https://dtsfab.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.thesamba.com%2Fvw%2Fgallery%2Fpix%2F1099896.jpg&hash=8dfb03c6b71911209db4a5b30fc97925ac0f950d)
old crappy worn lifters they attempted to resurface on a belt sander
(https://dtsfab.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.thesamba.com%2Fvw%2Fgallery%2Fpix%2F1099894.jpg&hash=8500eab11a9ccbb1ccd35b7c485c3d8ed52f0c29)
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 17, 2013, 09:10:01 PM
Well, the tear down is complete.  Not as good as I had hoped for. 

Thanks guys for the hard work on what is arguably on of the hotter days here in Phoenix.  On the bright side we are almost on a downhill side. 

Will I for one am glad it got tore down.  Now we know what we are working with.   Hit me up for all the goody's to fix this case.  I have all the case serts and studs to fix it. 
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Post by: fabr on August 17, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
The pics tell all. WOW is all I can say.
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Post by: Yummi on August 17, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
Frustrating to say the least.  Will learn more in thee near future.  Hoping the Sgt did not do that himself. 
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 19, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
Ok let's put on our big boy pants and move on with this project.  Here is the first rough graft for the carburetor top.  Give me some feed back as to what changes you think should be made. 
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Post by: Carlriddle on August 20, 2013, 05:39:53 AM
 jj: jj: mm:  Thats just bad ass!.

Alum?  Anodized?  Then engraved? 
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Post by: fabr on August 20, 2013, 06:05:30 AM
Leave it natural aluminum with clear anodizing.
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 20, 2013, 07:41:08 AM
Leave it natural aluminum with clear anodizing.

Probably just polish and then engrave.  Touch it up after with some white compound after. 
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Post by: fabr on August 20, 2013, 08:56:28 AM
perfect.
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Post by: Carlriddle on August 20, 2013, 11:14:18 AM
Probably just polish and then engrave.  Touch it up after with some white compound after.

I like the alum look best.

Your CAD program prob spits out everything in flourescent green.   rofl rofl 
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Post by: fabr on August 20, 2013, 12:48:10 PM
I like the alum look best.

Your CAD program prob spits out everything in flourescent green.   rofl rofl
LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
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Post by: Yummi on August 20, 2013, 06:40:28 PM
Looks great Fast, thanks for the hard work.
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Post by: Yummi on August 20, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
Well quick update:

This sucks balls.  Got word from the machine shop.  New block is needed.  Dang, there goes more wind from my sales.   

BRB with a good update. 
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Post by: fabr on August 20, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
Anyone on the samba or other site maybe just have a complete engine ?
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Post by: fabr on August 20, 2013, 07:02:31 PM
BTW,why can't the case be salvaged? Just the pulled stud? Is the case already to far over bored in the mains? Cracked?
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Post by: Punkur67 on August 21, 2013, 06:04:35 AM
Let me check with my father in law today for a block. I know he had some before he closed his shop.
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Post by: fabr on August 21, 2013, 06:39:37 AM
Thanks punkur!
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Post by: Punkur67 on August 21, 2013, 04:42:57 PM
What size motor are you building? We already started making calls. Just need to know if its a stroker and what size.
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Post by: Yummi on August 21, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
What size motor are you building? We already started making calls. Just need to know if its a stroker and what size.

1915 - heads done, etc - sleeves on the way - need motor block for 1915 - guess that is 42mm?

Thanks for the calls.  Kind of urgent as we need to decide what to do soon.
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Post by: IronCoffin on August 21, 2013, 06:40:24 PM
I'm going by the machine shop tomorrow afternoon to pick up the heads. I was also told to pick up a "case", is this the same thing as a "block"? If so should I hold off? This shows you how much I know about motors...

:swig:
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Post by: fastcorvairs on August 21, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
I'm going by the machine shop tomorrow afternoon to pick up the heads. I was also told to pick up a "case", is this the same thing as a "block"? If so should I hold off? This shows you how much I know about motors...


:swig:

Case, Block same as. 
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Post by: IronCoffin on August 22, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
I know they're have been a couple of hick ups getting this project off the ground, but I wanted to take the time to thank everyone again. Everyone involved with this build from information to donations has been extremely helpful and resourceful. I can't wait to see my brothers face when he gets to enjoy everyones hard work that is going into this project. So, once again thank you and God Speed!!!!

https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/fcs2/doing-something-good-for-a-marine-oorah-
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Post by: Punkur67 on August 22, 2013, 01:51:39 PM
I know they're have been a couple of hick ups getting this project off the ground, but I wanted to take the time to thank everyone again. Everyone involved with this build from information to donations has been extremely helpful and resourceful. I can't wait to see my brothers face when he gets to enjoy everyones hard work that is going into this project. So, once again thank you and God Speed!!!!

https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/fcs2/doing-something-good-for-a-marine-oorah- (https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/fcs2/doing-something-good-for-a-marine-oorah-)

I just forwarded this to all my friends and family.
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Post by: IronCoffin on August 22, 2013, 02:00:05 PM

I just forwarded this to all my friends and family.

 mm: mm: mm: mm: mm: mm: mm: mm: mm:
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Post by: Punkur67 on August 22, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Still trying on the case, sent a couple bucks in the meantime to help. Money donations help builds like this more than most of you think. There is always hundreds in little parts and pieces in building a car. Even if you only donate a little you just bought a switch or some tabs or hardware, or .............. Lets all help out this great cause for a worthy Hero!
 
Make sure you record giving him the car. Always good to look back on that memory. I still watch the video of giving Travis his car all the time and it still makes the hair on my neck stand up. In fact, I watched it when I saw this thread started. Thanks to all the people helping and thank you to all of our brave soldiers!
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Post by: Yummi on August 22, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
Thanks Punkur.  Folks here at DTS have really dug deep.  Can you post that video of Travis?  Don't think I ever saw it.  If it is you tube, or such would you mind if i use it to motivate others on this car?
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Post by: Punkur67 on August 23, 2013, 06:23:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lO7AF1gbbA&feature=youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lO7AF1gbbA&feature=youtube)


edit to embed....
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Post by: Yummi on August 23, 2013, 06:23:21 PM
Been a few days since I have updated this.  That video above motivated me.  Sometimes you dont see everything going on behind the scenes, but it is there. 

Great Job Punkur with your build.  Hope we get the same response. 
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Post by: Punkur67 on August 23, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
I know you will. I know their reaction is not the motovation for building the car but its awsome. I know your hard at work throwing all your blood, sweat, and tears at the bug and all you can think about is the next part you need or whats left to do. Giving the Henschel family their car was one of the happiest and rewarding days of my life. Keep up the good work and let me know if you need any help.
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Post by: fabr on August 23, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
oorah!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Yummi on September 01, 2013, 03:54:50 PM
Well, this project got stalled a bit.  I had a work project that had to take priority.  Back on it.  Game plan, buy block, get this bad boy rolling and going under its own power.  Thanks for all the support.  Just did not want anybody to think this had fallen from the radar, or been stymied. 

Will get better on updates as we get back in gear. 

Thanks again.
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Post by: IronCoffin on November 13, 2013, 08:24:13 PM
Ok, great news motor is done and we need to get it from Perri's over to Jeff's. Like everyone else here trying to hold down a 9-5 I can't do anything till the evening or weekend. I'm looking for some help getting the car from west. Mesa to Jeff's house in east Mesa. Does anyone have a car hauler that can meet me Friday at Perri's? Shoot me a text az peeps if you can help or have ideas. Thanks,Marines brother Mike. 602-295-7693
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