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Automotive Powered Off Road (AKA: Buggys, Jeeps, Trucks, Etc,Etc. ) => "AP" General Discusion => Topic started by: SandDragon on June 21, 2009, 08:55:20 AM
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Still working on it got a little more done. Rear motor support and have the headers done going to get them ceramic coated soon. Still have to add upper shock supports and a few more little things, at least no more big stuff to buy except for the powder coating, thank goodness getting tired of spending money. I am still under $6000 though check out the complete build at www.photobucket.com/sand-dragon-design I would like to know what you guys think so far.
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Looks awesome to me! What motor are you using, specs on the car?
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3800 V6, 6 rib bus trans, 930 axles and CV's 3 x 3 trailing arms. 12' long, 96" wheel base, 92" wide in rear, 84" wide in front, total weight no riders almost 1400 lbs. 22" of ground Clarence in the front and 20" in the rear. around 19" of wheel travel in the rear and around 20" in the front. Completely home built and designed.
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Wow 92" in the rear with 3x3s! that looks like a stock tortion housing too. How wide wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface. Are you just running real wide wheels?
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15 x 15 wheels min. offset, 1300 plus tires
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Nice, more pics please!
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More pics coming soon im starting to put it all together now we got the upper shock support welded in last night. I trying to get it ready for a hard test drive before i take it back apart and have it powder coated i would hate to have to weld on it after it painted.
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Well I finally have my header finished.
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New pics, I finshed the dash and got the stainless pipe bent instead of running long radiator hose and have my lights mounted. I should have it finshed in a couple of weeks for the big test drive, if nothing breaks I take it apart and have it powder coated.
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New wing and gauges, side panels and wirering from the computer to the console and lights than I'm ready to test drive. hoping to go LS sometime in Sept.
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Sound like a sand in your beerfest debute is in order...Congrats on the build
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Thanks for the congrat and it would be great to run the sand with a bunch of you guys I'll keep you all informed about my trip plans.
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Well I finally got it started today now that everything works time to take it apart and paint it.
http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc21/fastnova1972/?action=view¤t=FIRSTSTART.flv (http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc21/fastnova1972/?action=view¤t=FIRSTSTART.flv)
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Are your cost still as low as you hoped? Nice work what ever the cost
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Yes I'm still under $6000 although I'm not going to powder coat we are going to wet paint it will be painted next weekend. More pictures than. I hope to be ready for LS the 16th Thur the 20th.
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Dsrace and I both have v6 cars. Make sure you put in mounts to control the torque of the motor. I dam near left my 3.1 on the ground. It had broken off the trans mount, mid mount, and started to take on the rear mount. Is that 091 built up? DS and I both now have 100% weddle geared 091s. DS blew his stock 2nd up pretty quick. The 3800 puts out some real fun power. Hope your at the beer fest
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yes it is an 091 but it isn't built I'm hoping that it will hold up as good as my other trans it was a stock car IRS trans it made it thru 4 trips to LS the only problem I had was pulling the hockey stick out and it wouldn't shift. I don't think I took it to easy on it but I haven't got to wild with the big jumps. Most didn't believe it was a stock car but you can also see pictures of it in my photo bucket under my old buggy. Take a look at my pictures to see if I have the motor mounted good enough. Let me know if you think I need to add another mount. You can see all the pictures of my build at www.photobucket.com/sand-dragon-design I would love to see you all at the bear fest when is it? Will it be OK if I only drink Root Beer? here is a clip of me and my old buggy with the same V6 that I'm using in my new one.
http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc21/fastnova1972/?action=view¤t=MVI_2095.flv (http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc21/fastnova1972/?action=view¤t=MVI_2095.flv)
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finished painting this weekend now it is going back together this week, almost ready to go to LS sure didn't know that the weekend that I decider to go was Sand Fest weekend leaving the 16th. Can anyone tell me for sure if it is Sand Fest weekend? If it is do you think I'll be able to get a camp site if I get there Wensday evening.
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finished painting this weekend now it is going back together this week, almost ready to go to LS sure didn't know that the weekend that I decider to go was Sand Fest weekend leaving the 16th. Can anyone tell me for sure if it is Sand Fest weekend? If it is do you think I'll be able to get a camp site if I get there Wensday evening.
Looking on the Waynoka webb site there is no camp spots open as of yesterday.
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so what does a person do is there off site camping? does that include all public camp sites are there any first come first serve sites? what a mess this is the only weekend my wife can get off of work till after April 15 she is a accountant and tax time starts for her next month. Thanks for the info.
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so what does a person do is there off site camping? does that include all public camp sites are there any first come first serve sites? what a mess this is the only weekend my wife can get off of work till after April 15 she is a accountant and tax time starts for her next month. Thanks for the info.
If the pay per sites are all full you can believe that all the public camp sites are full to. You mite try the Deuces Wild and the other one down the way called Associated camping. They have some spots across the road north.
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Just called the Deuces Wild and they had a group cancel on them. The owner is going to call me back and let me know if they have any of them still open.
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The place will be crowded to overcapacity. If you really want to have fun riding the buggy you will be disappointed. If you like looking at a lot of stuff you will have a ball. Don't be too optimistic about finding a site tho. If you do find one grab it. IMMEDIATLY!
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Thanks for your help, I'm going to make a few call now
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BTW, you can no longer park roadside to camp either.
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Thanks for your help, I'm going to make a few call now
Better yet just wait untill the seventh of October to go down. Take your time putting it back together.
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Best idea yet.
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got a camp site now but is the 7th of oct when youall are planing your beer fest i'm planing on going to that it will be just the us guys going then no wifes we can get a little more wild.
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COOL!!!!!!!
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got a camp site now but is the 7th of oct when youall are planing your beer fest i'm planing on going to that it will be just the us guys going then no wifes we can get a little more wild.
Make sure the computers are turned off. Wife-Y's know about Google street maps you know.
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I know no pictures please. Hey I'm setting up the front end of my buggy everything I read says that it should be toed in about 1/4" at the front my question is do I set it at ride height ( /\ ) or do I set it with the a-arms level ( - - )?
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Ride height. ALL alignment dimensions always are to be set at ride height.
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thanks it sure does go back together slower than it comes apart.
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OK guys I need some more help how do you tighten the rear axle nut and hold the hub at the same time? How tight should it be and how do you check it? another question when you have the axles in and you move the trailing arm up and down there is a point when the axle is at its shortest point how much play should there be in the axle back and forth? I'm also guessing that that little bag of grease is enough for one CV it doesn't look like much to me.
Thanks
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OK guys I need some more help how do you tighten the rear axle nut and hold the hub at the same time? How tight should it be and how do you check it? another question when you have the axles in and you move the trailing arm up and down there is a point when the axle is at its shortest point how much play should there be in the axle back and forth? I'm also guessing that that little bag of grease is enough for one CV it doesn't look like much to me.
Thanks
Big steel bar about five feet long with two holes drilled in it to go over two of the lug nut studs. 275 foot lb's. big cheater bar on the ratchet handle. About .5 to .65
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Thanks for the help the only problem is the .5 to .65 in axle play I believe it is more like .25 to .375 I can put another washer behind the trailing arm bushing to get a little more room but it doesn't give much more than a 1/4" of thread depth in my pivot bolt but I will be using safety wire to keep it from backing out. thanks again trying to do this right the first time.
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Thanks for the help the only problem is the .5 to .65 in axle play I believe it is more like .25 to .375 I can put another washer behind the trailing arm bushing to get a little more room but it doesn't give much more than a 1/4" of thread depth in my pivot bolt but I will be using safety wire to keep it from backing out. thanks again trying to do this right the first time.
Turn some off the end of the axles and move the keeper ring grove back some. .250 to .375 us a tad close. You mite be able to just turn some off each axle end with out messing with the groves to get the .500 you need.
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Thanks again I'll do that I have a friend with a lathe.
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275 foot lb's. big cheater bar on the ratchet handle.
I'm glad I've got a 750 foot lbs torque wrench in the shop ;D No need for the cheater bar when torquing!!
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SandDragon, What's your progress on your car? Is it done? Need some pics! 8) 8) 8)
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Sorry been real busy this year havent had much to set and chat. If you go to my photobucket you will see my car in action it runs good had some stuff break but that is because i didnt check the bolt before going out. About got it back together and getting ready to make a trip to LS some time in early June.
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Cool!!! I think we are looking at making another trip to LS in sept. Hope you can make it and see you there. I'll keep you posted. 8) 8) 8)