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Title: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 19, 2016, 07:55:07 AM
I was thanking of having my radiator lines ceramic coated. Is their anyone in KS. that does it?, Or will  powder coating be better in the long run?. I have ran the ceramic headers and the sand seem to scrubs the coating  off over time. I'm sure the same can be said for powder coating.  maybe, I'm asking to much from the coating.  then there is this. has anyone tried the new spray on chrome products? it goes on like paint. but has the high shine of chrome. being new to the water pumper it just drives me nuts seeing the piping in the raw state. piping is out there for all to see. So what's the thoughts? power coat, ceramic coating, or just paint it every few years????????
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: fabr on October 19, 2016, 09:19:56 AM
Me,I'd just send the items to Jet-Hot  in OKC for ceramic. They are the best.  Great people to deal with also.Yes,ceramic and PC will both blast off in the sand.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: fastcorvairs on October 19, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
There is a company here in Wichita that will hot jet coat.  Lorac Company Inc 624 E Harry St Wichita Kansas 316-263-2565. they will not polish it but never the less they Hot Jet coat.  Mite think about Sear Coating them.  Lot 's of places are doing that now. Same as what they put on a gun. I am having mine all HydroGraphic dipped with a clear coat. 
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 19, 2016, 01:36:49 PM
I love what can be done with the dipping. I work with a guy that is doing small things. man can it turn a turd in to a diamond.  giggity..  As you know (fast) the lower radiator line runs low and under the car. I would like something that will last for sometime with the sand hitting it. I'm really starting to thank that the jet coat will be the best  way to go. thanks for the input Guys     
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 19, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
Or make them out of aluminum and hit them with scotchbrite at the end of the season.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 20, 2016, 07:32:43 AM
The thought of using aluminum never even crossed my mind. That would have been the way to go! Dam a day late and a dollar short. I have one section left to make and I'm done making  them out of steel. how is your build going punkur67? I will be ordering the intercooler setup next week from outback after all. just could not bring myself to make it.  5: 5: 5: 5: 5:
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
Making progress. I will try to update my thread again. It  crashed a while back so. I did not update it
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 10:54:08 AM
Fot the price of ceramic coating you could probably buy a stick of aluminum and rebuild them
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: fabr on October 20, 2016, 01:09:01 PM
Most likely.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: DeepBusch69 on October 20, 2016, 01:56:21 PM
Did you weld a bead on the ends of the tube to make sure the hose does not slip off? 
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 02:03:06 PM
I did not. I clean the silicone hose ends with brake or carb cleaner to get any coolant off and they hold great. Never had one come off after several years and multiple cars
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 20, 2016, 02:32:51 PM
Fot the price of ceramic coating you could probably buy a stick of aluminum and rebuild them
I'm thanking, I should change my plain. just paint what I have made for know. then start gathering the aluminum parts.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 02:43:45 PM
It was about $70 for 12' of 1.5". And you could polish, powder, or paint. Just make sure its seamless 6061
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 20, 2016, 02:46:03 PM
cool idea for adding the bead roll. low budget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVDUM2ZxoW0
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 20, 2016, 02:58:32 PM
It was about $70 for 12' of 1.5". And you could polish, powder, or paint. Just make sure its seamless 6061
I have order aluminum tubing and fittings from a place in Denver Colorado. the name is not coming to me right now. the prices are great and its to the house in 3 days. I thank three 1 1/2 donuts and 8 foot of pipe would work great. the one drew back is,, I do not have a tig at the house. so I will have to make it all out of metal first. then use it as a template to take to work and make it out of aluminum. long way around.
 
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 04:15:23 PM
You do not need to buy fittings. You can use your Bender to make all of your offsets. Way cleaner and no weld joints
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 20, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
You do not need to buy fittings. You can use your Bender to make all of your offsets. Way cleaner and no weld joints
sometimes it's so simple,, you don't even see it. yeah tubing bender will work great!! What a great idea. thank you . aluminum tubing will be ordered tomorrow
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Just make sure its 6061 seamless or it can kink
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: big dave on October 20, 2016, 06:53:48 PM
Just make sure its 6061 seamless or it can kink
will do
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: fabr on October 20, 2016, 07:44:59 PM
great info,punkur.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
Here is a few that I did
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 20, 2016, 09:52:24 PM
great info,punkur.
I learned the hard way buying a few different grades. Finally found out what some of the local builders were using. Amazing that the same thickness just a different grade will do. I sand filled the other grades and they would still always deform around 30 degrees and kink bad around 60 degrees.  I just did a 100 degree bend with a 4.5" radius die with no deforming or kinks with the .085 6061.
I like the aluminium cause it does not need to be coated if you do not want. I scotch brite mine for the raw look and my dad wanted his polished. I also like that the tubes dissipate heat better too. Kind of like an extra heat exchanger. I dont know how much of a difference it really makes but it cant hurt having 6 feet of aluminium lines out in the open air.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: fabr on October 21, 2016, 05:47:45 AM
I learned the hard way buying a few different grades. Finally found out what some of the local builders were using. Amazing that the same thickness just a different grade will do. I sand filled the other grades and they would still always deform around 30 degrees and kink bad around 60 degrees.  I just did a 100 degree bend with a 4.5" radius die with no deforming or kinks with the .085 6061.
I like the aluminium cause it does not need to be coated if you do not want. I scotch brite mine for the raw look and my dad wanted his polished. I also like that the tubes dissipate heat better too. Kind of like an extra heat exchanger. I dont know how much of a difference it really makes but it cant hurt having 6 feet of aluminium lines out in the open air.
Absolutely!
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: dsrace on October 21, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
it does work well, i have bent several cars up this way. on dunebounds he picked up some polished so i coated it in gear lube for the bender and it took minimal to polish the bend and rest back up. not to a mirror finish just a clean look. if he wanted mirror again that was on him  ;D ;D
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: fabr on October 21, 2016, 06:29:30 PM
Lots of the polished stuff is not something that can easily touched up. Some kind of coating,not really polished. If it were me,I'd start out with raw 6061 tube and polish it if I wanted polished. 6061 polishes up on a buffing wheel really fast. After polishing,buff in a bit of wax.
Title: Re: CERAMIC COATING/POWDER COATING/PAINT
Post by: Punkur67 on October 21, 2016, 07:11:27 PM
We spent a few minutes with a terry towel and polish on my dads lines. We liked they matched the shine of the ceramic coated headers and left them there.
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