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UTV's Off Road ( RZR, YXZ, Mini Buggy, Carts,etc.) => UTV Controls and Electrical => Topic started by: Admin on February 19, 2009, 10:28:48 PM
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Got to modify my throttle cable, anyone successfully soldered a brass to a stainless cable, I have seen Rowyco post he has made the entire barrel end from solder, To much trouble for me, I was gonna get a piece of brass rod, drill it to cable size, and chamfer the back side, peen the cable so it wedges in the chamfer and solder it up... Everything i have found online says this, But it has to be hard soldered.. Cant be soft soldered with the shit that melts at 450 degrees. Need the regular ol plumbing solder i think... Bro in law is a great solderer he will do that part...
Anyone done it or tried it and failed?
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Works great! As long as the cable is clean and will tin.... Make the hole in the barrel as small as possible to get the cable through, and the countersink fairly large so you can really fray the cable before soldering. We could never afford cables as kids........ Solder or braze.
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What solder did you use?
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Not sure...... I have quite a bit laying around. Plumbers should work fine. Use flux.
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Not sure...... I have quite a bit laying around. Plumbers should work fine. Use flux.
I have read not to use lead based solder that melts at 450-600 degrees, but to use the stuff that melts at like 1200...
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Melts at 1200? Thats not solder...... Its aluminum. ;D ;D ;D
Actually I don't know the temps. The electrical stuff is all below 600deg.
I always did it for a temporary fix. Buy a new cable tightwad.........
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No, im not dropping 100 bux on a cable when i have a perfectly good one... as of today there is no soldering neccesary, I do have to make a barrel end that will go over the end on there, Got one in my pocket im gonna copy, Heading for Rick S House in about an hour to pick u some goodies, And see if we can make it.... Ill take pics tomorrow...
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BTW, how you think new cables are made? ;D
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the ends?
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Used my welder to puddle the end of a cable for my girls gokart. Little shapping looked pretty good. 2 years not a problem.
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Yah, It's never a problem till your 5 miles from camp and the sun is almost down. Ever tried to get somewhere with the idle screw screwed all the way in for power? 10K RPM till you let the clutch out, then your lucky to get 5 MPH. :P
I'm just kidding. They are probably swedged on? They seem like they may be made of lead? When we used to fix them and they would break, it was usually because we made it brittle near the end from to much heat?
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Buy a new cable tightwad.........
If the shoe fits, wear it. Yep, that fits Bug! ;D
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Go to the weld shop and buy silver solder.That is the proper stuff to use.Get a bit of the flux for it too.Use a steel rod for the end. You'll need an acety torch to melt it.Brass ans regular solder don't hold well with SS cable.
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Heat the end cherry red,touch a fluxed silver solder rod to it and you.re done.keep the torch OFF the cable!!!!
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Got it already thanks!! ;D
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so you made a barrel...Been there done that. I thought you were shortening the cable.
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so you made a barrel...Been there done that. I thought you were shortening the cable.
Nope didnt need to... I thought it was to short for free length, but with some off the adjustment it was perfect....
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so you cut some threads off the adjuster? I have shortened the housing before to gain a little exposure on the cable.
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so you cut some threads off the adjuster? I have shortened the housing before to gain a little exposure on the cable.
No i didn't mod the cable at all, I didn't have everything together, and measuring I thought I was short, turned out I was not... I couldn't do anything with the housing etc, without wacking off the ends... the barrel adapter solves the problem, and saves me buying a cable...
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well even though bug got his solved, ill add my story. when i needed to fix my cable and had no money. i took it to my machine guy. he cut the frayed cable end off, cut a new barrel from a stainless steel rod. drilled the hole, stuck it on the cable. silver soldered it on with the acetalene torch. it broke within 5 minutes right where the cable went into the barrel. he said he must of heated the cable to much. so we repeated and was carefull not to get the cable to hot. has lasted for almost 6 years and still going..
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Uh that's what I said to do. But yes you cannot get the cable anywhere near the torch or it will fail very quickly as you found out..Of course you also found out if done right it will last very well.
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AAAWWW C'MON GUYS....
I read on another site you could zap it with welder and get great results....I should pirate that thread...It was pretty hilarious... ;D
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Bring that booty here pirate spec! Let's have a look at it!
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Bring that booty here pirate spec! Let's have a look at it!
I go to this site when I need a good laff...
I used to participate there, trying to help guys who want to build but got tired of being contradicted by people who don't know...But claim to be designers
http://www.gokartforums.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&KW=renegadespec (http://www.gokartforums.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&KW=renegadespec)
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I LOVE your sig line there!!!
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I Thought you'd like that...
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:D ;D ;D 8)
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I cant use a push pull with the setup i have, to many bends and tight ones at that... That is a very good price tho, most mc cables i have priced custom from motion pro etc is 60.00 minimum labor plus parts, and shipping, so right about 100 bux..