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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1065 on: October 15, 2014, 05:06:36 PM »
Quote from: fabr on October 13, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
Off the top of my head it would likely shave around $500 off,+/- a bit. As for longevity,running in lube,I would bet a long time. Only issue would be with initial break in wear that is not  an issue with the silent type. Would need a slack adjuster that might offset any savings also. The silent type would be just as cost effective or more so if the silent chain sprockets were off the shelf or I had dedicated milling cutters for the tooth profile and cnc'd them myself as I do the shafts. If I were to make a small run of these I would do just that. Are you and enemy ready to pull the trigger YET???? LOL!!!!

working on it!! lol got to give the poor boys time to catch up and it looks like the jeffco website is down and has been for a week. no i'm not trying to buy one of those before you make the comment  rofl

i would make no changes to the current set up for possible a $500 reduction in cost.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1066 on: October 15, 2014, 05:08:06 PM »
BDKW,the exact reason I never considered them in the first place.Was looking for the cushion.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1067 on: October 15, 2014, 05:21:47 PM »
DS,if there was a possibility of building 2 more of these units,I would spring for the cost of the sprocket cutters. That would save a boatload of $$  All you guys would need cover is cost of the raw materials,bearings,seals,etc.. Still not cheap but since the next one/s are still ,so far as I'm concerned,prototypes or test unit/s,as we discussed previously I would do machine work free.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1068 on: October 16, 2014, 06:51:51 AM »
Was it the tooth count or the profile/style of the sprockets that had to be custom.  I read back thru whole thread (rainy day at work) and the chain is a standard product(?custom length?).  I would think something from a stock produstion coulda been used since case was custom.  Isn't it same basic setup as transfer case?  Bearing ea side of sprocket shaft.  Theres a boatload of machine work involved, spline broching, hardening, all adding up quickly esp for one off stuff.  But money aside, it has held up to the worst test, hammering the whoops.  :police: :police: rofl :police: :police:

Fabr, the whoop hammer!!  LMAO
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1069 on: October 16, 2014, 07:04:52 AM »
 Bear in mind,these are not stock sprockets no matter the tooth count and are an involute tooth profile like a gear is. That is why this type of chain runs with zero speed oscillations as neither standard silent or roller chain does. Carl,due to where the input needs to be in relation to the countershaft ,shift shaft,clutch pushrod,there is little room for different center to center distance. It's a pretty tight fit and was one of the reasons,I now recall,for not using roller chain. Wouldn't fit so that option is out now that I think about it. It's been a while..................
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1070 on: October 16, 2014, 10:08:16 AM »
I thought maybe is was close enough to stock  ??? but if so you woulda went that way.  No reason to reinvent the wheel.   

Carry on "whoop hammer" ;D
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1071 on: October 16, 2014, 11:20:25 AM »
Whoop hammer,I like that.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1072 on: November 02, 2014, 07:22:14 PM »
Latest pic,nearing completion......................
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Re: busa/VW crossbreed?
« Reply #1073 on: February 24, 2016, 03:39:18 PM »
Quote from: fabr on January 04, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
Brief look at the progression from -"duh,whadda I do?" to end piece. Remember this is only the engine adapted that is necessary to provide a rigid and positively located mount takeoff point.
Fabr...
What the HP rating for that love Joy? Wont the busa destroy the rubber inner piece?
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1074 on: February 24, 2016, 05:00:57 PM »
It did destroy the cushion but did not keep the car from running. Turned it into powder. Somewhere in this thread I showed it. .I don't know how long it was gone before I noticed it.I then decided to use a BMW driveshaft guibo in it's place and it has performed flawlessly for about 4 years now.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1075 on: February 25, 2016, 03:35:15 PM »
I'm going through industrial mechanics at local tech college. I showed that picture to my instructor and he laughed, and said it wasn't going to last very long. He suggested a double chain coupler.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1076 on: February 25, 2016, 03:44:53 PM »
You instructor doesn't have a clue if he laughed at the guibo. That chain coupling would have zero shock absorbing quality. The guibo has worked flawlessly with some pretty serious use.I assume you showed him the guibo or the lovejoy. The lovejoy did not hold up ,the guibo is perfect for the application.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1077 on: February 25, 2016, 03:47:10 PM »
Just remember,wyatt,those that can-do. Those that can't -teach. That is no BS 99% of the time. Remember that ,learn all the tech you can, and then go out and do what is said to be impossible/impractical.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1078 on: February 25, 2016, 04:24:20 PM »
Quote from: fabr on February 25, 2016, 03:47:10 PM
Just remember,wyatt,those that can-do. Those that can't -teach. That is no BS 99% of the time. Remember that ,learn all the tech you can, and then go out and do what is said to be impossible/impractical.
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Re: Fabr's Car-VW/busa crossbreed
« Reply #1079 on: February 25, 2016, 08:43:18 PM »
Quote from: fabr on February 25, 2016, 03:47:10 PM
Just remember,wyatt,those that can-do. Those that can't -teach. That is no BS 99% of the time. Remember that ,learn all the tech you can, and then go out and do what is said to be impossible/impractical.
Yeap.  rofl
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