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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2009, 06:52:00 PM »
personally I bet that they are "forged" powdered metal.
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2009, 11:19:09 AM »
personally I bet that they are "forged" powdered metal.

can you explain that one I am not sure what that is?
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2009, 11:53:30 AM »
can you explain that one I am not sure what that is?

Daimler Chrysler uses the same crap for its connecting rods in the 4.7 and 3.7 engines.

Its a metal substance (the compound varies) thats literally powdred metal just like a fine dust to a fine sand dependiing on the courseness called for. They pour the powder into a mold and compress it with a lot of heat. The powdered metal melts and then takes the shape of the mold so technically its forged as they used pressure.

Not enough heat and the inner metal does not melt bond to each other well and you get a weak part.
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2009, 02:04:27 PM »
Well they're not exactly weak as such   but they have zero ductility.LOTS of stuff is done with PM now in automotive and many other applications.
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2009, 08:45:15 PM »
ok I didn't get down to take a few pics today but tomorrow I will, ya I'm taking a lazy day hell I took a lazy week my knees needed it after installing a new wood floor in the kitchen and dining room for the wife. I can now check that one off my list and I should be good for the winter! ya right!

any way I may have been the culprit behind the failure on that yoke. I had a dust cap fall off so I went and bought a freeze plug and popped it in but first drilled a hole in it. I also jb welded it place. after two days of riding around my place I saw the jb weld was flaking off so I pulled the axle and welded the four corners. not huge welds just about 1/8". it really does look like the brake started on one of those spots. it broke at the transaxle on the drivers side. when I clearenced the yoke for more angle in the beginning I went a little too far on one side and saw a small hole so when I spot welded the 4 corners I filled in the hole ( in the middle of the yoke ) and buffed it back. that was before I went to LS to meet up with everyone in the rain and cold. it lasted for that trip and two runs out in the field before it failed and of course I was coming off the ground hitting the terrace's and landing 3/4 throttle never letting off the gas. after a dozen or so runs like this it failed. but there is a spot along the brake on the lip tube itself that looks like a bad spot in what ever process they used to make it. this is what I want to post a pic of. I will get it tomorrow.
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2009, 10:25:19 AM »
Daimler Chrysler uses the same crap for its connecting rods in the 4.7 and 3.7 engines.

Its a metal substance (the compound varies) thats literally powdred metal just like a fine dust to a fine sand dependiing on the courseness called for. They pour the powder into a mold and compress it with a lot of heat. The powdered metal melts and then takes the shape of the mold so technically its forged as they used pressure.

Not enough heat and the inner metal does not melt bond to each other well and you get a weak part.

You mean sintered metal? Like Oilite bearings? I think that's what you mean, anyway.

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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2009, 11:25:50 AM »
same technology but different compounds and similar processes
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2009, 03:55:51 PM »
Ah, because there are very high performance engines getting around with titanium conrods made like that.

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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2009, 04:09:23 PM »
Can I guess yet PLEASE!!!!!! LMAO
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2009, 09:47:28 PM »
go for it!
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2009, 10:03:58 PM »
3000 RPM?

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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2009, 07:02:21 AM »
You where sliding it sideways. Then you gunned up the terraced hill witch led to a loss of traction over one of the terrace's. You then naturally stayed in the throttle and when the rear wheels came back down. KABOM any you threw dirt and grass at me big time :) :) :) :) LMAO LMAO LMAO ;D ;D ;D


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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2009, 08:03:40 AM »
Funny how the truth changes between points of veiw LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2009, 08:32:17 AM »
Now we have gotten the bottom of this, Liquor Cabinet+buggy=broke. LMAO
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Re: u-joint vs cv again part 500
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2009, 11:11:18 AM »
3000 RPM?

good guess actually 6450 rpm, I hit the rev limiter when it came down! lol
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