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Re: I want it i need it.....its time
« Reply #270 on: April 15, 2024, 06:10:30 PM »
They have 1/8, 3/16 and 1/4. I used 3/16 but wish i had gone 1/4". At about 80 it begins pushing in..

Thanks and good info.

What was your made for? Looking on their site.
Mine is for a 99-04   S-10 BUT it is upside down and trimmed to final shape. :nw :m
« Last Edit: April 15, 2024, 06:17:24 PM by fabr »
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« Reply #271 on: April 15, 2024, 06:14:50 PM »
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: I want it i need it.....its time
« Reply #272 on: April 15, 2024, 06:28:59 PM »
The coating is very scratch resistant. At the first I would always spray off the dust before cleaning it. No need,just be sure you use Invisible Glass on it. A very nice side benefit of Optic Armor  coating is that it is hydrophobic. Water just sheds off it. That is why I haven't bothered to put the wipers on the buggy. Kind of weird when cleaning as the Invisible Glass just beads up on the surface. I do a quick overall wipe to get rid of all dust/dirt then spray it again and polish/dry it off with a clean paper towel. I use the blue Scott shop rags.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2024, 06:30:39 PM by fabr »
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Re: I want it i need it.....its time
« Reply #273 on: April 16, 2024, 03:48:59 PM »
the fact that it has lasted for you this long tells me all i need to know!! i will need a windsheild to better protect my eyes. thanks for the info and i need to measure.
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« Reply #274 on: April 16, 2024, 03:51:04 PM »
ran across this tatum sand demon ad on fb. not a fan of the surf board looking front end  but im sure im in the minority  :m  what really caught my eye was the rear shock mounts, well that and the air cleaner  :m

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/786945790013961?rid=10223754671564260&ad_id&rt=1&refID=0&refType=0&referral_code=commerce_attachment







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« Reply #275 on: April 16, 2024, 07:24:57 PM »
Unique way to mount the rears for sure. Pretty nice car overall.
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« Reply #276 on: Yesterday at 05:53:37 AM »
I'm sure those rear mounts work, just never seen mounts like those. I can also see the " packaging " advantage to rear engine configurations. I still pre fer mid engine .
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« Reply #277 on: Yesterday at 06:34:17 AM »
Maybe I'm wrong but the only advantage to rear engine configuration is if a person wants to wheelie at will. I prefer the front stay down.
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but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
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« Reply #278 on: Yesterday at 06:37:58 AM »








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« Reply #279 on: Yesterday at 11:23:54 AM »
I called and spoke with the guy at optic armor. Hell of a nice guy and has a lot of experience in the auto glass field as well as knowledgeable into the adhesives, adhesion promotors and primers we use.  I have tried many variations of many brands of urethane adhesives over the last 32 years in this field.

Optic armor is located by the lake of the Ozarks. They ride at ls dunes and have visited silverlake. 6 hr drive to ls ok though.

The reasons I mention the urethane adhesives is because their drop ins are produced with a frit to be glued in. The reason there coating works so well is its silicone based. So 220 grit sand paper to knock the coating off and the apply the black frit primer we use to glue a non glass frit model in. That model is called oversized as the square cut the cut to shape. Going that route is about $100 cheaper then a drop in. Found it very interesting that the windshields can be shaped in a sweet metal break and that they'll hold shape. He said you have to over bend it more then one would think but it works well.

Measured my opening last night and my max opening is 22x41".   They offer a line of drop in jeep windshields as well. Where I would prefer some curve just for asthetics,  flat is fine to. So surprisingly they make a windshield for a jk wrangler, they have a curve about that of the s 10 windshield. The over sized version block size is 18.7 x 56". That may not need be cut down in height, just width and radius the corners. He said jig saw and I have a 2000 grid wet sander at work I can use to sand fine tune it. Over sized  jk .25"x18.7x56" is $380 plus $50 shipping. 4 weeks out and it ordered one.

They use a 3m frit primer and Bostwick urethane #70-08a.


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« Reply #280 on: Yesterday at 11:55:03 AM »
No need to wet sand the edges. Dry is fine. I suggest at least 2 thickness masking tape on saw foot and 2 on the windshield just to be safe against scratches. HINT:Use ONLY sharp,ground teeth jig saw blades. Do not use fine tooth types either.Are you doing a glue in?  I figured you would do a rubber mount. I pretty much had no choice but I think I would do the rubber mount again. I have some scrap material and will do a couple bends to see if the coating scratches/fractures.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 06:21:07 PM by fabr »
"There can be no divided allegiance here.  Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all.  We have room for but one
flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is
the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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« Reply #281 on: Today at 06:30:13 AM »
No need to wet sand the edges. Dry is fine. I suggest at least 2 thickness masking tape on saw foot and 2 on the windshield just to be safe against scratches. HINT:Use ONLY sharp,ground teeth jig saw blades. Do not use fine tooth types either.Are you doing a glue in?  I figured you would do a rubber mount. I pretty much had no choice but I think I would do the rubber mount again. I have some scrap material and will do a couple bends to see if the coating scratches/fractures.

i guess i had never heard of ground tooth jig saw blades but ill look into it.  i did tell him i wanted 1/4" thick and the cat gasket is good for 3/16" to 1/4". the jk wrangler windshield doens't have much curve to it but it does have a curve where the older wrangler windshields are flat.

on the fence as to glue in or gasket. i know which style gasket you used and if i use gasket it will be what i call the self locking cat style.  here is a link to graingers site that sells what i call self locking cat gasket.   

https://www.grainger.com/product/10G557?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:MS:CSM-2295:TVRYAD:20501231&gclid=f5e4a3db1f7e1cd15cd4c5fa0f971a91&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=f5e4a3db1f7e1cd15cd4c5fa0f971a91&gclid=f5e4a3db1f7e1cd15cd4c5fa0f971a91&gclsrc=3p.ds
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« Reply #282 on: Today at 06:35:20 AM »
pulled one of the rear shocks off of scotts rail last night. the coils are 14" 325 top and 16" 400 bottom with only 1/2" of pre load! bottom needs to be 16" tall but the top should be 12" rather then 14" tall. you can barely get the coil rings on.  clearly over sprung for my application and my son in law,  so , going to stop at speedway tonight and hope to get 300 lower and 250 upper. that should take the pog stick out.
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